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Old 02-08-2017, 09:50 PM
 
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"Are we a nation of laws any more?" We are fixing to be.

Can you imagine if laws weren't political footballs, how cool would that be. People could stop playing games and get on with life.
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:42 PM
 
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Trumps travel Executive Order was backed by Leading Democrats, until it came from Trump. Just proves that this is all Political and not for the People of any kind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJlmFqUA8w
Amazing how much change and how quick the Democratic party has undergone. If people didn't have short term memory and did some reading, we could all agree that it is the Democratic party that is moving further away from the center. Whether that is a good thing or bad thing is another debate, but I am surprised when people think the Democratic party hasn't changed at all.

Here is the crazy part of it all, is this an organized change that the top Democrats plan out in advance, or is it really grass roots.
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:45 PM
 
Location: My House
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It isn't a "Muslim ban." This is the same action Obama took, under cover of the same law. They didn't call it a "Muslim ban" when he did it. This shows how they are politicizing the debate over national security. The Democrats are disgusting!
Actually... it's not the same thing as what Obama AND CONGRESS did.

Exercising a 6-month suspension of new immigrants and not processing any more applications during that time isn't the same as slamming the front door shut unannounced and locking out citizens and green card holders.

Trump is disgusting for a) not reading the EO he signed and b) trying to pull this crap without any notice.

People are vetted before they are allowed into the country. It's not like him up and doing this at the spur of the moment saved us all from some "bad hombres" that were going to waltz through immigration, unchecked and unvetted.

He's a doofus of the highest order.
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:52 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It isn't a "Muslim ban." This is the same action Obama took, under cover of the same law. They didn't call it a "Muslim ban" when he did it. This shows how they are politicizing the debate over national security. The Democrats are disgusting!
Gee, if Dems are disgusting what should we label those who attempt to equate Obama's actions with Trump's?

Maybe just victims of the con-man they've come to worship or should terms like 'disgusting' be in play?

Sorry, Mr. President: The Obama Administration Did Nothing Similar to Your Immigration Ban | Foreign Policy
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:56 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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- Trump's so called Muslim ban, whatever you may think of it or of him, is entirely within his rights as POTUS.
On the immigration ban, the law favors Trump - MarketWatch

- There have been discussions here about illegal immigration and I've heard many people make the claim that it's OK to break the law because it's so hard to immigrate here!
Not only that but according the politically correct it's offensive to EVEN call them illegal aliens because "no human is illegal".

- We have "sanctuary cities" where we actively protect illegal aliens from the law.


- We have the police standing down while rioters assault and destroy property.
UC Berkeley police accused of inaction in wake of Milo Yiannopoulos protest

Are we a nation of laws any more?

It has been 104 years and a few weeks, since we were a nation of laws.
The Presidency of Woodrow Wilson, ended the Freedom & Liberty of the people of the United States of America. Placing us into bondage to the Federal Government.
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Old 02-09-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: My House
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Great post OP. I think the nation spoke when Trump was elected POTUS. If he keeps his promises, which so far he certainly seems to be doing with all the weeping going on from those that supported that "other" candidate, we'll move toward a nation of laws again.

I couldn't believe how stupid the college students were that I saw questioned. They believe their 1st Amendment rights include the right to destroy property and block roadways. Hopefully the Trump administration gets our educational system straightened out.

With the illegal aliens, they are all criminals and Obama was just trying to kiss their behinds to win the vote for the Democratic Party. Had he won amnesty for the illegals, Trump would not be our POTUS and the free for all would have continued.

If one thinks about it, anyone that could support Hillary Clinton has no respect for our laws and doesn't care about the security of our nation.

I have no idea why people have become so dumbed down that they don't understand the issues involved with the illegal aliens and the travel ban on countries from which people come that want to destroy anyone that won't embrace Islam and sharia law.
Well, nobody has a right to destroy property, but there are some roads that can be blocked.

How will the Trump admin get the educational system straightened out with an airhead like DeVos at the wheel? Trump barely got out of college himself. Come on... colleges??? Professors aren't stupid. They're educated.

Everyone's ancestors in this country were once "illegal aliens" unless they're Mexican or American Native peoples.

Hillary Clinton was hung over an email server that wasn't secure, while Trump and his entire administration are using... UNSECURE EMAIL SERVERS.

Muslims aren't dangerous. Terrorists, no matter their religion, are dangerous. Sharia law is religious law. If people want to PROVE that they oppose Sharia law, they need to stop trying to inject Christianity into US law. If not, I have no choice but to believe that they're the flip side to the same coin that those Sharia law lovers are on.

Sorry, but if you want to avoid religious law, you have to do it for ALL religions. Not just Islam.
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Old 02-09-2017, 02:10 PM
 
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Well, nobody has a right to destroy property, but there are some roads that can be blocked.

How will the Trump admin get the educational system straightened out with an airhead like DeVos at the wheel? Trump barely got out of college himself. Come on... colleges??? Professors aren't stupid. They're educated.

Everyone's ancestors in this country were once "illegal aliens" unless they're Mexican or American Native peoples.

Hillary Clinton was hung over an email server that wasn't secure, while Trump and his entire administration are using... UNSECURE EMAIL SERVERS.

Muslims aren't dangerous. Terrorists, no matter their religion, are dangerous. Sharia law is religious law. If people want to PROVE that they oppose Sharia law, they need to stop trying to inject Christianity into US law. If not, I have no choice but to believe that they're the flip side to the same coin that those Sharia law lovers are on.

Sorry, but if you want to avoid religious law, you have to do it for ALL religions. Not just Islam.

Oh, my God where do I even begin? There were no original native Americans. All of our ancestors migrated here from somewhere else when there were no immigration laws so no one came illegally. Mexico didn't even become a country till the mid 1800's long after this continent was discovered. So WTH are you talking about?


Radical Muslims are indeed dangerous. No need to import them into our country because we already have enough radicals of our own to deal with. You're actually comparing the ideals of Sharia law with Christianity?
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Old 02-09-2017, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I suppose if we were, the birther-in-chief would be impeached momentarily...
A president can't be impeached because some people don't like what he is doing.

Nice try, though.
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Old 02-09-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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We aren't a nation of laws and there is no rule of law. It's the rule of politics.
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Old 02-09-2017, 03:02 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Gee; only took to the third post for the word "liberal" to be used as a pejorative.
Well, it is.
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