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It's funny to see all of the feigned confidence and denial that's been going on consistenly with democrats here since Trump's win. I'm not sure if it's a way to cope with a huge loss, or they really don't have anything productive to do, but it is entertaining, and goes well with my morning tea.
Since democrats have not changed this losing strategy, I'm quite certain we'll see another Trump win in 2020.
Thanks guys. We'll be enjoying Trump's wins.
The only way Trump will win in 2020 is if Hillary runs against him again. The only reason he won is she was his opponent.
Oh, we lost, most definitely. The thing is, we ALL lost. It just might take a little longer for some people to realize it.
You lost because the hard-core foundation at the bottom of your party have degenerated into a collection of not-very-likeable people; completely-useless misfits and losers with no work ethic; people whose idea of financial planning is limited to playing the lotteries, winning a lawsuit, or qualifying for SSI disability; and who are quick to cite any imaginary prejudice like racism. sexism, xenophobia -- or whatever, instead to taking a hard look at the image they themselves project.
And I know, as well as anyone else, that for every form of parasite cited in the paragraph above, there are two honest "blue dog" Democrats who will play the game, and prosper -- if the opportunity is there. But it can be very hard for many of us to understand that the longed-for prosperity of the Fifties and Sixties was a "happy" (?) accident due to the fallout from the Second World War, and that many of the jobs characterizing a post-industrial economy are neither stimulating, nor well-paying.
But your perception that "we all lost" is the central feature of the big lie at the heart of the so-called "progressive" delusion -- that there is some poorly defined "greater common good" opposed by a small group of "rich Republicans" who can be taxed heavily to pay for all the pipe dreams of the rabble at the center of the Democrats' coalition.
There undoubtedly are a relatively small, but hard-to-define benefits, like a clean environment, that private enterprise can't address. And I don't doubt that an adequate "safety net" can be designed, and run more efficiently, and at less cost, if it were retuned to local control and oversight, so that, as with immigration reform, the abusive minority could be identified, stigmatized and excluded.
But I can also guarantee you that "progressives" -- Republican and Democrat alike -- have no interest in this; because a bureaucrat who solves a "problem" is a bureaucrat who no longer has a useful function.
One way or another, there has to be reform, because a substantial portion of the globe is industrializing; that means fewer desperate people willing to immigrate and start at the bottom here -- and what's left over is neither very bright nor very trustworthy. The gangsters in charge of the Mexican-modeled Beautiful Peoples' Republic of California think they can eventually find more people to do their dirty jobs -- either by keeping our borders open, or destroying the former middle class, but those of us here outside the grasp of the "urban planners" have other ideas. If the politicians don't have the resolve to crack the whip on the unmotivated, the simple workings of supply and demand will eventually do so -- and more harshly.
The late cartoonist Walt Kelly's famous observation that "We have met the enemy, and he is us" surely applies here, and anyone who thinks a stronger wall at our borders is the solution is fooling him/herself. But the Democrats will get absolutely no sympathy here until they get serious about reducing the size and power of their public-sector playthings -- which is not likely.
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Trump "won" because he promised uneducated voters that there was a better alternative for the ACA; that low skilled manufacturing jobs are coming back to America; that he would drain the swamp.
What is evident now, which may not have been to people before the election, is that none of these things will happen.
There is no replacement for the ACA.
The jobs arn't coming back.
He won't "drain the swamp."
Well educated liberals and conservatives both knew he was running an election on falsehoods. Now that he actually has to govern, middle America is realizing they have been conned. The angry masses at GOP townhalls prove this.
These people with vain hopes are as Trump identified, the uneducated whom he loves, because they are easy to dupe and lead, all one has to do is play to their desperation's and drum up a posse by belligerent grandstanding.
The Roads already exist, and they are not going to be dug up and relaid, it will be small crews that perform "overlays", not the massive manpower to build as if no road exist as was done in the late 1950's and early 1960's. But Trump supporters can't think that deep to see something so simple to understand.
People no longer use an assembly line to pack cupcakes or wrap candy or any other goods, its done by computer controlled robotic and mechanical processing systems, Robot controlled fork lifts handle warehouse work, and no one is using manual typewriters and carbon paper copy machines, grocery stores don't need a mass of clerks because they have scanner lanes and bar codes on products. China just pledge to reduce its Coal usage by 30%, that is a HUGE NUMBER !!! American coal mines have been declining since the late 1960's and during the 1970's it was evident that coal mining would not be a growing business, but a shrinking business.
Natural Gas now is dominating where Coal use to have a niche, but it will not be regressed back to install ing coal furnaces in homes nor business. We no longer have steel mills that require mass volumes of coal, and the Internet is not dominating commercial purchasing, and there are no more Sears Mail Order Catalogs. Cars now are built with parts from around the world, no more of the old system where Ford had a plant for all parts. Good Year and Firestone, long ago closed many of their tire plans, and the system of making tires is automated.
We don't have sawmills all over the country, nor do we have brick factories all over the country, we import cinder blocks and dry wall.
The fiction of Trumps illusions that he can recreate the America of his Youth, is not much more than the confabulations of an Old Man, reminiscing about the past with a lust for its recreation. There won't be a resurgence of the Jim Crow system that Trump grew up within during his youth, and certainly the segregation he relished as a young wealthy kid, won't be dominating American as it did up to the mid 1960's
Women are not going to go back to pretending they have no role and no place, nor will they go back to being housewives relying on the man to be the worker, and she is to be subservient to him as if she was an ornament, sex toy, cook, maid and house keeper for him. Those days are GONE !!!!
No matter what they do with or to ACA, they can only Amended it, it can't be abolished..... and anything they do that places more burden on the people or try and deny what the people now have as benefit and service, will be met with many variations of removing Republican from every level of seat they hold and making them void of continuing malice.
The return to "bank gaming" and "run away wall street" and trying to create a USA money washing machines for any and all illicit activities will likely result to expose the history of Trump as a mass money washer and he may find himself locked away without means of recourse. We know with his business failures his wealth is tied to tax evasion, not paying contractors, looting his business and when banks would not led him money, being one who used foreign money from unscrupulous characters, of which it may well come to expose the fact that his devotion to Russia may well be an obligation he has to fulfill to keep them from calling in their debts and exposing the fact of how they propped him up and fed him money to wash. Who knows what truths may eventually unfold. But one thing is certain, truth finds always a way to be truth and it will remain being truth, regardless of any acts of game or tactic man engages. What ever is within the claims of wealth that Trump makes, will expose and uncover itself, and he won't have means or ways to hide from such truths.
America has seen much over the course of its being, once the haughtiness and inhumanity of slave owners flaunted themselves and the wealth they acquired by inhumane means, and time brought an end to the system of plantation industry and took down many, who were never to rise again, for others death of many torments found them over the span of their time, and their offspring's squanders all they once claimed into nothing.
A swamp dweller claiming to drain the swamp likely results to a swamp dweller finding himself in the same eroded swamp he arose from, trapped in an eroded dry swamp bed, gasping for reprieve, when his like kind contaminate the swamp and the waters came to evaporate. It's not unlike the non life sustaining swamps that man once dumped his toxic waste, they resulted to consume life with cancers of every type upon all whom built their life upon such premise of being dwellers around and within the swamp.
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And yet unemployed Trump supporters still blame minorities and other marginalized groups for their plight.
Why don't you start by looking at who represents you in office.
Nothing to do with what I said and also total B. Lol
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