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Another thread about moving to some Gawdforsaken place in the middle of nowhere because the houses are cheap.
I'd take cheap housing in places like Ohio or Indiana than to live in California, where it's overpriced, overtaxed and over-regulated. Why do you think so many Californians flee and move to cheaper states like Nevada, Utah, Arizona or Texas?
Toledo is on Lake Erie and likely has warmer water in the summer then California. Besides because of high rents on retail in California coffee shops tend to be extremely small and it is hard to find seating. In areas where commercial rents are low, coffee houses tend to be huge.
Looks like Lake Erie water temperatures go up to about 79 degrees in the summer. Compare that to water temperatures in the 60s at best in California.
Wages are about 20% higher in Los Angeles, but rent is nearly 5 times as much.
Honestly, I would be very reluctant to eat out in California. The restaurant volumes are very high, the number of rushed workers is low and there is lots of cross contamination going on between the raw meat and raw veggies in such a small work environment.
If the Los Angeles health department is looking the other way with the food stands on Alverado in Westlake serving fruits and veggies out of plastic bags and meat out of camp coolers, then I don't trust the restaurants.
Many of the worker's on the food trucks in southern California live in crowded conditions where viruses spread like crazy. Why would I want to eat stuff of a food cart when the person making the food lives in filthy, crowded apartment with a dozen roommates and rides the dirty crowded buses with their work uniform.
I have great news for you! The city you prefer is much cheaper than Los Angeles. You should be celebrating your good fortune.
I live in a low COL area and this is why welfare fraud and disability fraud is so much more common here. Where I live someone on disability who also works part time makes enough for an apartment and decent used car. In fact in some areas where a large percent of residents are on some type of govt. program housing is priced down to the average payout ($800 to $1000). You can rent a house for $400 a month in rural Kentucky. High COL liberal areas get hosed big time because the govt. doesn't weight transfer payments for COL.
Well that actually makes sense in a way..if you're poor, you should live in a low cost of living area.
We shouldn't be putting up poor people in beachfront property on the taxpayer's dime lol.
In my city it's kind of disgusting they put some of the income adjusted housing right in the center part of the city, on the riverfront w/ decent views and a bike trail.
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Right-wingers and their witty comebacks.
Fun fact: the Los Angeles MSA has an economy twice the size of Ohio. As in, the entire friggin state.
Maybe that's why LA has a 2.7% vacancy rate and places like Toledo resemble less cheery-looking versions of Chernobyl.
Well it has over twice as many people too..and who knows how many illegals.
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I think that is interesting how people in big cities say that "median income is not a worry", I guess it just shows how out of touch they are.
West Coast liberalism really does take the tone of "not my worry". Eric Garcetti is the "not my worry" mayor.
Thousands of homeless, areas reeking of urine, sidewalks blocked from sleeping tents in the middle of downtown is "not their worry" to the Los Angeles city council.
I am conservative, but I have to say at least Boston, New York and the east coast liberal establishment spends some of the wasted tax payer dollar to actually help those get back on their feet. Los Angeles and San Francisco liberalism is very weird in my opinion and ignores every social issue.
Even the elite are stepping in human waste just to grab a bite to eat at lunch and yet they ignore it and then they claim they are for social justice.
Social justice is people having a nice apartment to call their own on minimum wage in Toledo not tens of thousands of people living in tents like what Garcetti's vision of social justice is.
The out of touch elite mentality is the reason why the South and Midwest elect the president of the United States and can vote a bloc and drown out any political prowess of California.
Most people in middle-America are not fixated on kimchee, micobreweries and opera. It is basically the wealthy, connected elite in a few select areas of West Los Angeles.
I do think it is nice that those who enjoy kimchee, wine and opera stay concentrated in liberal cities and liberal states that vote a certain way. That pretty much ensures that people who enjoy church, BBQ and non-materialistic values decide who ever controls the presidency and United States senate and house.
You act as if you're the majority. At least half the country doesn't value church and the other social conservative garbage that you seem to, no need for the south and the plains to shove it down the rest of the countries throats
The question is why so many people chose to abandon their homes if the city is so great? They abandoned those awesome cheap houses and the city had to have them destroyed. Toledo also has more violent crime so it's easy to find locations for crime with so many abandoned houses. Why is that if Toledo is so great?
Hmm… Toledo has abandoned houses that the city is destroying...
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Thousands of homeless, areas reeking of urine, sidewalks blocked from sleeping tents in the middle of downtown is "not their worry" to the Los Angeles city council.
And, Los Angeles has "thousands of homeless"…
Good thing the powers-that-be in Los Angeles haven't realized the cost-effectiveness of purchasing and renovating abandoned houses in Toledo and sending its homeless population there.
Ironically, even when the minimum wage is $15 an hour in California the after-tax wage on that $15 will be $11.52 which means 173 hours of after-tax will required on minimum wage in California for a median 1 bedroom apartment.
Basically, even after the minimum wage is $15 an California with the higher tax brackets it will be a net of $11.52 which would basically reduce the numbers of hours per month required for a 1 bedroom median apartment from 190 to 173 hours.
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