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Old 02-13-2017, 01:04 PM
 
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You're right no other president has been able to create a constitutional crisis in 3 weeks, but I wouldn't call banning Green Card Holders an accomplishment.
How silly.

There is no constitutional crisis. Court ruled against EO. Administration complied.

 
Old 02-13-2017, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I agree. However, why should it change now? Nobody tried to change it when Obama did it. I mean some people yelled and screamed but it fell on deaf ears... NOW its all of a sudden a problem we should address?
Obama didn't travel back and forth from the White House on the weekends, the largest criticism was the vacations. I recall the complaints when Michelle took one trip to Manhattan on her own, oh the horror. Now they have another full time detail in Manhattan, can you see the difference.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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What has he accomplished?

Name something.
I'll name two things.

Removed penalty for not purchasing Obamacare. IRS can no longer enforce it.

ICE cracking down on criminal Illegals. Get them out of here.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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How silly.

There is no constitutional crisis. Court ruled against EO. Administration complied.
Administration still threatening to go to Supreme Court.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 01:08 PM
 
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Administration still threatening to go to Supreme Court.
And disparaging judges. Additionally theres lots of talk about ignoring the court. And thats some scary stuff.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I'll name two things.

Removed penalty for not purchasing Obamacare. IRS can no longer enforce it.

ICE cracking down on criminal Illegals. Get them out of here.
Removing the penalty for young healthy people purchasing health insurance may doom ACA, that's not an accomplishment unless they have a replacement, they do not.


I will give you that it appears the ICE is rounding up more illegal immigrants, we will see how that turns out.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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Here's the list of The Donald's' First Month Accomplishments:




And in his defense, he did say it was really just a part time job managing a $20 Trillion Country compared to managing his $10 Billion real estate business.


Maybe we should be thankful. If he is off annoying a foreign dignitary, that can be fixed. If he is in Washington screwing up everything from health care to taxes to security, that take some real repair work.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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How many weekends off do you get from your $1 a year job (where you work 14 hours a day for the other 5 days of the week)?
 
Old 02-13-2017, 01:12 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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What has he accomplished?

Name something.
Violating the Emolument Act, creating a Constitutional crisis, making enemies of our allies and enemies of our enemies, making Spicer and his other PR people look like fools, wussing out on the China talks, starting an investigation about this nonexistent voter fraud, whining about Ivanka's loss of business on Twitter, lots of things!
 
Old 02-13-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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I agree. However, why should it change now? Nobody tried to change it when Obama did it. I mean some people yelled and screamed but it fell on deaf ears... NOW its all of a sudden a problem we should address?
Well, I think the problem was that Obama didn't take that many vacations, no matter how much his detractors wanted to believe otherwise.

Bush Jr actually spent more time on vacation that Obama.

Clinton spent less time on vacation than Obama.

Right out of the gate, Trump is going to blow all of them out of the water with total vacation days.

Yes... presidential vacations cost money. Mostly due to Secret Service and travel costs. But, who'd want a POTUS who took "NO" time away with his/her family?

That job isn't one you can take an actual vacation from, anyway... it goes with you.

So, the real issue is figuring out what is a reasonable amount for the US taxpayers to allow our presidents to spend on vacations?

I don't know that I want to pay for the Trump family to fly back and forth between NYC, FL, and DC twice a week, do you?
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