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I haven't seen it but then I am not part of the Dem/liberal (shadow government) swamp that still needs to be cleaned out of the highest circles - but I am sure one of those people will be along shortly to tell us all the scuttlebutt and what we should think of it all.
So you and the Tea Party will embrace larger budget deficits because early indications are he wants to increase military spending, infrastructure and across the board tax cuts.
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In 30-plus years, the republicans have never failed to vote AGAINST anything that would benefit our veterans. During the same period, every one of them with real power has attempted to rob medicare and social security as well.
Meh. Presidential budgets are meaningless. If we wanted to make them useful we would print them on toilet paper.
Yes I know, the GOP folks on the right screamed about them constantly. Thats foolishness. The congress and Senate have a long history of completely ignoring them, I dont expect this to change, but I bet Trump will be surprised by it. LOL.
Just wondering how late into "early February" we have to wait until we see what the trump budget is going to look like. Can hardly wait to see what his policy and funding priorities are going to be.
"The President submits a comprehensive budget request to Congress in early February which outlines the Administration’s policy and funding priorities and the economic outlook for the coming fiscal year."
So you and the Tea Party will embrace larger budget deficits because early indications are they he wants to increase military spending, infrastructure and across the board tax cuts.
a) Why would you think I could or would speak for the Tea Party?
b) If have $100 and I also add to that another $100 by doing some extra work on the side to bring those extra bucks in, I have $200 this year (but I only had $100 last year). I prioritize my spending so that what I want most .. which may cost $120 .. is what I decide is the highest priority to spend it on.
If last year I only brought in $100, I would have gone over budget to buy that $120 item but this year, due to good planning and hard work, I have enough and still some left over.
I also have another option too .. if my budget is $100 and I want to put most of that money on a new bike that costs $75, I may just have to cut out the helmet that costs $30 or sure I would be in the hole. I can decide to not buy the helmet if it isn't absolutely necessary or I can go out and earn $5 more to stay even.
Why would I have a larger budget deficit if either of the above is the case - even though I spent more than I spent last year or decided to spend the same amount but on different things?
Perhaps you will say that tax cuts HAVE to mean we have only $80 to spend this year, not $100, but many of us would say wait and see on that one because it is just possible that if there are more people paying taxes or more people making more money so that they still pay more in taxes than last year, even if the rate is lower on all of it, we could still have more in the kitty to play with.
Many different scenarios are possible and you only try to pin me (who didn't even talk about the budget but merely the fact I have not seen it and who might be along to tell us more about it) down as though I am stupid enough to only see one possible scenario - and right now NONE of us have any information to base anything on?
The only thing I will say right now is that yes, I think Trump does want to put priority on the items/areas you mentioned. Obama put priority on other areas (and by the way his fiscal responsibility was not that great as I think all of us are aware). Trump also plans to try to bring spending down (or at least not send it skyrocketing) I believe but there are many ways to do that and still have SOME things cost more without going off the deep end as I have illustrated. If worse comes to worst, he could shut down whole departments that we probably really shouldn't have at the federal level anyway - and move those dollars to his highest priority areas.
First year budgets are called "skinny budgets" because technically the previous president has already submitted a budget for FY17, which started October 1.
Just wondering how late into "early February" we have to wait until we see what the trump budget is going to look like. Can hardly wait to see what his policy and funding priorities are going to be.
"The President submits a comprehensive budget request to Congress in early February which outlines the Administration’s policy and funding priorities and the economic outlook for the coming fiscal year."
It will be interesting to see what he comes up with but they are pretty meaningless. Congress overwhelmingly vote them down when forced to vote on them and then do their own thing.
a) Why would you think I could or would speak for the Tea Party?
b) If have $100 and I also add to that another $100 by doing some extra work on the side to bring those extra bucks in, I have $200 this year (but I only had $100 last year). I prioritize my spending so that what I want most .. which may cost $120 .. is what I decide is the highest priority to spend it on.
If last year I only brought in $100, I would have gone over budget to buy that $120 item but this year, due to good planning and hard work, I have enough and still some left over.
I also have another option too .. if my budget is $100 and I want to put most of that money on a new bike that costs $75, I may just have to cut out the helmet that costs $30 or sure I would be in the hole. I can decide to not buy the helmet if it isn't absolutely necessary or I can go out and earn $5 more to stay even.
Why would I have a larger budget deficit if either of the above is the case - even though I spent more than I spent last year or decided to spend the same amount but on different things?
Perhaps you will say that tax cuts HAVE to mean we have only $80 to spend this year, not $100, but many of us would say wait and see on that one because it is just possible that if there are more people paying taxes or more people making more money so that they still pay more in taxes than last year, even if the rate is lower on all of it, we could still have more in the kitty to play with.
He's in for a real brawl with this crew and I don't mean the democrats.
Many different scenarios are possible and you only try to pin me (who didn't even talk about the budget but merely the fact I have not seen it and who might be along to tell us more about it) down as though I am stupid enough to only see one possible scenario - and right now NONE of us have any information to base anything on?
The only thing I will say right now is that yes, I think Trump does want to put priority on the items/areas you mentioned. Obama put priority on other areas (and by the way his fiscal responsibility was not that great as I think all of us are aware). Trump also plans to try to bring spending down (or at least not send it skyrocketing) I believe but there are many ways to do that and still have SOME things cost more without going off the deep end as I have illustrated. If worse comes to worst, he could shut down whole departments that we probably really shouldn't have at the federal level anyway - and move those dollars to his highest priority areas.
I don't understand how you can reduce taxes, increase spending and not run record deficits. Where exactly are those efficiencies that will balance a budget of this magnitude. We will see about the spending cuts, they need to be significant beyond the usual suggested items like food stamps and foreign aid. Cuts to DOD would be meaningful but that appears to be going in the other direction so where are the spending cuts.
He's in for a real brawl with this crew and I don't mean the democrats. I think infrastructure is a great idea but it needs to be offset with taxes, not just new deficits.
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