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Old 02-15-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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They are going to stage a coup by telling the truth.

The allegations are either true or they or not. No one seems to be disputing the veracity of these claims.
Nobody even knows what they are about since they are CLASSIFIED. You have no idea if anything being said is true or not. Nobody does at this point except the people spreading it. The ONLY thing we know for sure is that Flynn lied since he admitted to that. That's it. What he did was not illegal at all, it's that he lied to the POTUS and VP. THAT is why he was fired. All the other crap coming out is unsubstantiated BS at this point. Wait and see what unfolds.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yet here we have a thread based on nothing.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Yet here we have a thread based on nothing.
Funny, isn't it?
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Nobody even knows what they are about since they are CLASSIFIED. You have no idea if anything being said is true or not. Nobody does at this point except the people spreading it. The ONLY thing we know for sure is that Flynn lied since he admitted to that. That's it. What he did was not illegal at all, it's that he lied to the POTUS and VP. THAT is why he was fired. All the other crap coming out is unsubstantiated BS at this point. Wait and see what unfolds.

why would he lie if he wasn't doing anything illegal?...maybe just reflex action I guess
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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Nobody even knows what they are about since they are CLASSIFIED. You have no idea if anything being said is true or not. Nobody does at this point except the people spreading it. The ONLY thing we know for sure is that Flynn lied since he admitted to that. That's it. What he did was not illegal at all, it's that he lied to the POTUS and VP. THAT is why he was fired. All the other crap coming out is unsubstantiated BS at this point. Wait and see what unfolds.
The big deal is that Trump knew Pence and Flynn were lying, yet let it stand.

Going behind the sitting President's back, and attempting to undermine U.S. public policy on national security is clearly illegal.

That's why all the lies.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:50 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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what exactly is your definition of an "obama operative"? someone that worked in intelligence during the obama administration?
That's the first thought I had, too. Many of those people have been in those positions for decades.

Maybe they are Bush operatives?
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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The big deal is that Trump knew Pence and Flynn were lying, yet let it stand.

Going behind the sitting President's back, and attempting to undermine U.S. public policy on national security is clearly illegal.

That's why all the lies.
What was Pence lying about? I must be behind in my news!
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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That's the first thought I had, too. Many of those people have been in those positions for decades.

Maybe they are Bush operatives?
If people could look past blindly trying to support their party at any cost and look at the actual facts and realities, its very possible that the members of the intelligence agencies want Trump gone ASAP. They are one of the many agencies that need to be consolidated and reorganized, which means potential layoffs. This is what the new CEO of any company looks at, and that is what is to be expected from Trump. Unlike the real business world where its harder to pull something like that off, the intelligence agencies are very well suited to do so here. I could care less if Trump stays or goes, its all a lost cause at this point, I think our democracy has hit a turning point of no return.
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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If people could look past blindly trying to support their party at any cost and look at the actual facts and realities, its very possible that the members of the intelligence agencies want Trump gone ASAP. They are one of the many agencies that need to be consolidated and reorganized, which means potential layoffs. This is what the new CEO of any company looks at, and that is what is to be expected from Trump. Unlike the real business world where its harder to pull something like that off, the intelligence agencies are very well suited to do so here. I could care less if Trump stays or goes, its all a lost cause at this point, I think our democracy has hit a turning point of no return.




Have to disagree with you - people are speaking out, following the news, contacting their representatives, rallying in the streets - mostly quite civilly - this is the very essence of our democracy, and such activities are on the rise since Trump's Inauguration. .
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Are these leaking classified information and channels printing it protected under 1st amendment? Is there some kind of NDA or agreement which makes them liable for investigation? It feels like some sort of Snoden and wikileaks in smaller scale.
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