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Why am I not surprised that Trumpettes would dismiss this as fake news despite the Republicans admitting this is serious and will mount a full investigation?
We are talking about TREASON here.
There was actual evidence of the conversations and if you don't want to believe that, you can go back to your delusional world where the Dump can do no wrong.
You are correct, there is certainly treasonous activities going on in OUR intelligence community by leaking classified information to the media. Yes, there were conversations between Flynn and the Russian ambassador but NONE of what was said was illegal and the intelligence community even admitted that.
What got Flynn in trouble is that he lied to Pence and other officials by saying he did not discuss sanctions with the ambassador when he did. As a result, he could no longer be trusted by the administration which is why he got booted and rightfully so. Had he just told the truth, this whole story would have been about OUR intelligence community breaking the law by leaking classified information to the media.
I want to hear the calls. Not edited. Lets see what we are dealing with.
Otherwise, this is all just fluff to try and take Trump Administration down. After all, nobody in govt, not democrats or republicans, wants him to succeed and be reelected in 2020.
I'd like to see the actual transcripts of the conversations or hear the calls myself. I find it odd that the WaPo has the transcipts and reports this story but doesn't mention what was said. Flynn is said to have contacted over 30 different world leaders/ambassadors and as mentioned, what that in itself is not illegal. If he discussed the specifics of the sanctions or promised what Trump would do, it's a different situation. We've seen so many Trump hit pieces where the truth turned out to be far different from the initial story that it's hard to know what to think until we see the transcripts.
Uh huh. And what coup exactly is going on? This administration imploding on itself & the public knowing about it is not a coup. It's simply "news". So, what coup is going on?
Obama and Clinton have nothing personally to do with the leaks. But, there are informal networks of career government people and various prior administration members and relationships going back to the first Bush administration or before who are surely in the loop on what is going on in the Trump administration.
Continuing with the general rule of his life, Trump's worst enemy is himself. He thinks that chaos and impromptu management decisions are the best. People are expendable...always....wives, employees, friends, cabinet secretaries, whoever. Relationships last as long as 'the deal' hangs together and there are always scapegoats. 'Yes men/women' are important to massage the ego. Truth is what he says it is. Contradictory information is dismissed. You can't run a government that way for long.
Now, take someone with a little political sense and serious government experience, some notion of national security, and some familiarity with previous presidential administrations and stick them in the middle of the Trump administration and they will be appalled at what is going on (or isn't) behind closed doors and what the public is seeing. That's most likely where leaks are born. These people know that the Trump administration is going over a cliff and they won't be quiet about it. I suspect that there are dozens of Deep Throat folks out there already.
I'd like to see the actual transcripts of the conversations or hear the calls myself. I find it odd that the WaPo has the transcipts and reports this story but doesn't mention what was said. Flynn is said to have contacted over 30 different world leaders/ambassadors and as mentioned, what that in itself is not illegal. If he discussed the specifics of the sanctions or promised what Trump would do, it's a different situation. We've seen so many Trump hit pieces where the truth turned out to be far different from the initial story that it's hard to know what to think until we see the transcripts.
It's likely the WaPo is sitting on what they have for the time being. It's likely that it will have a greater impact with a later release. This is not going to be a one-day story. I imagine WaPo reporters are digging deep right now, getting their ducks in neat and tidy rows.
Remember when we had to sit through hour upon hour of them drone on and on about Benghazi and how they were going to use it to topple Obama? Each day something "new" would come out that was going to be THE thing that finally did it after all the other things they manufactured couldn't do it. Well, I guess that's coming back to bite them in the a** now. Except this incident has a little more teeth to it. It'll be interesting to see where it leads.
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