U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-16-2017, 01:46 AM
 
1,168 posts, read 711,302 times
Reputation: 1553

Advertisements

It seems like we're going full-circle. Women used to be economically dependent on men and marriage rates used to be high. Then there was the whole Women's Liberation movement that took off in the 70s. That resulted in a lot of single men and women. Maybe in the 70s, 80s and 90s a single person could afford his or her own house. Not any more. Many people cannot even have a 1-bdrm apartment unless they split rent with someone. Dual incomes is becoming one of the major motivators behind men and women getting together. Ironically, men and women are more economically dependent on each other than ever before.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-16-2017, 01:52 AM
 
Location: California
30,701 posts, read 33,478,764 times
Reputation: 26124
It doesn't have to be marriage but I sure see a lot of couple living together for economic reasons. I also know 2 couples, one in their 30's and one in their 60's, who were dating and got married when health insurance became an issue.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
18,238 posts, read 8,222,024 times
Reputation: 10645
Quote:
Originally Posted by KonaldDuth View Post
It seems like we're going full-circle. Women used to be economically dependent on men and marriage rates used to be high. Then there was the whole Women's Liberation movement that took off in the 70s. That resulted in a lot of single men and women. Maybe in the 70s, 80s and 90s a single person could afford his or her own house. Not any more. Many people cannot even have a 1-bdrm apartment unless they split rent with someone. Dual incomes is becoming one of the major motivators behind men and women getting together. Ironically, men and women are more economically dependent on each other than ever before.
Do you have numbers to support your belief that marriage rates are increasing? Because I don't see it.

After all, you don't have to get married in order to share living expenses.

I've been single now for over four decades. In a million years, I would never get married solely in order to improve my economic situation. It simply isn't worth it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2017, 07:41 AM
 
Location: The analog world
17,086 posts, read 9,870,032 times
Reputation: 22744
It's more likely that you'll see a continuing increase in the number twenty-something adults returning to their childhood homes. The multi-generation household is making a comeback. My neighborhood is full of large homes with expansive basements that have been decked out with extra bedrooms, bathrooms, and entertainment spaces that can host three-generation families.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2017, 07:49 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
9,950 posts, read 8,083,287 times
Reputation: 4208
Quote:
Originally Posted by randomparent View Post
It's more likely that you'll see a continuing increase in the number twenty-something adults returning to their childhood homes. The multi-generation household is making a comeback. My neighborhood is full of large homes with expansive basements that have been decked out with extra bedrooms, bathrooms, and entertainment spaces that can host three-generation families.
This and the reverse. 2nd job is selling appliances. Have sold more than a few mini kitchens for Mcmansion basements for mom. Hilly area and walkout basements for the win. Cant do the stove. Well legally anyway.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2017, 08:00 AM
 
Location: The analog world
17,086 posts, read 9,870,032 times
Reputation: 22744
Quote:
Originally Posted by ottomobeale View Post
This and the reverse. 2nd job is selling appliances. Have sold more than a few mini kitchens for Mcmansion basements for mom. Hilly area and walkout basements for the win. Cant do the stove. Well legally anyway.
I agree. Friends of my in-laws created a family compound of sorts. Grandma was widowed and sitting on a historic home in a very expensive coastal city. Upkeep became too much for her, so she sold it and bought an expansive rural home for her grandson, his wife, and her g-grands. She lived for many years (she died at age 103) in the attached granny unit. Seemed to work well for all involved.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
25,331 posts, read 14,048,526 times
Reputation: 6506
Quote:
Originally Posted by KonaldDuth View Post
It seems like we're going full-circle. Women used to be economically dependent on men and marriage rates used to be high. Then there was the whole Women's Liberation movement that took off in the 70s. That resulted in a lot of single men and women. Maybe in the 70s, 80s and 90s a single person could afford his or her own house. Not any more. Many people cannot even have a 1-bdrm apartment unless they split rent with someone. Dual incomes is becoming one of the major motivators behind men and women getting together. Ironically, men and women are more economically dependent on each other than ever before.
I am seeing less marriages out there, but more cohabitation..especially with welfare single moms who don't tell welfare they are living with the "baby daddy", he is working, there are getting welfare..... btw its illegal
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Bronx
16,221 posts, read 18,692,270 times
Reputation: 8164
Quote:
Originally Posted by KonaldDuth View Post
It seems like we're going full-circle. Women used to be economically dependent on men and marriage rates used to be high. Then there was the whole Women's Liberation movement that took off in the 70s. That resulted in a lot of single men and women. Maybe in the 70s, 80s and 90s a single person could afford his or her own house. Not any more. Many people cannot even have a 1-bdrm apartment unless they split rent with someone. Dual incomes is becoming one of the major motivators behind men and women getting together. Ironically, men and women are more economically dependent on each other than ever before.
There is a lot of talk about this topic in the men's rights movement. The US both left and right are entering the populist era. With the defeat of Hillary Clinton, marked the end of the Reagan years and neoliberalism in America which championed women's rights and marked the end of the expansion of the Great Society Years of the 60s and 70s. In socialist countries like Nazi Germany, and the Soviet Union, and even in PRC China, women rights were rolled back, and women are subordinate of men. I'm not sure if this will happen in the USA, but it looks likes due to high costs of income, women and their small families will have to seek out stable working men now to get by. The nation saw this decline of marriage with the African American community which has 70% out of wedlock births, generations prior blacks had the highest rates of marriage. Now white Americans are increasingly going down the same road as black Americans. The only groups of Americans with high marriage rates are Asians, Jews and Muslims.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2017, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
33,295 posts, read 20,110,179 times
Reputation: 13005
Hard to say.

I assume in developed countries, women are very independent. They earn their own money and many women have very high positions in government and company. Most of them don’t even need men for their financial security.

My fiance and I make pretty much the same amount of money. Neither one of us wants a prenup agreement because it is not necessary.

I cannot imagine marrying somebody I am not attracted to. Money is just not worth it. Plus, the money my family gives me and the money I earn is good enough. I don't need any extra.

To each her own I guess.

This said, I can understand why some people marry for money. Different people look for different things. I am attracted to good looking men who are generous, kind, loving, brave, and passionate. Being generous doesn't mean that he has to make a lot of money. This just means that he cannot be "cheap."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-16-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: My House
34,603 posts, read 28,981,011 times
Reputation: 25588
I think more cohabitation. Tax filing isn't always kind to marrieds.

Of course, you may see more homosexual citizens getting married before people get all juiced up over gay rights again.
__________________
When in doubt, check it out: FAQ
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top