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Old 02-16-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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which one?

pinocchio obama
lol

 
Old 02-16-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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All President tell versions of the truth for the group they are infron of. Obama was master of this!


9 Biggest Lies Obama Told In His DNC Speech | Daily Wire

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit....../9-biggest-lies-obama-told-his-dnc-speech-aaron-bandler
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Jul 28, 2016 - ... Hillary Clinton. But as is the norm with Obama, his speech was laced with lies. Here are the nine biggest lies that Obama told in his DNC speech. ... It would have been easier to just list what Obama said that was the truth: 1.
You're not wrong - all Presidents (and I'd argue humans) lie.

The questions are how often, how deliberately, and about what (do these lies actually dictate policy, as many of Trump's lies and/or bad information are turning out to do)?


If you want a comparison to other politicians, here you go:

Donald Trump:
Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact
Quote:
True (4%) (15)
Mostly True (12%) (44)
Half True (14%) (52)

Mostly False (19%) (71)
False (33%) (122)
Pants on Fire (17%) (63)

Barack Obama:
Barack Obama's file | PolitiFact
Quote:
True (21%) (123)
Mostly True (27%) (163)
Half True (27%) (160)
Mostly False (12%) (70)
False (12%) (71)
Pants on Fire (2%) (9)

Hillary Clinton:
Hillary Clinton's file | PolitiFact
Quote:
True (25%) (72)
Mostly True (26%) (76)
Half True (24%) (69)
Mostly False (14%) (40)
False (10%) (29)
Pants on Fire (2%) (7)

Let's look at some other Republicans:
Mike Pence (not super great, but higher than Trump):
Mike Pence's file | PolitiFact
Quote:
True (10%) (4)
Mostly True (13%) (5)
Half True (33%) (13)
Mostly False (20%) (8)
False (25%) (10)

Mitch McConnell:
Mitch McConnell's file | PolitiFact
Quote:
True (13%) (4)
Mostly True (27%) (8)
Half True (17%) (5)
Mostly False (23%) (7)
False (20%) (6)

Paul Ryan (rather respectable):
Paul Ryan's file | PolitiFact Wisconsin
Quote:
True (14%) (10)
Mostly True (21%) (15)
Half True (24%) (17)
Mostly False (28%) (20)
False (10%) (7)
Pants on Fire (4%) (3)

Feel free to look at others here: People | PolitiFact



What's rather clear, immediately, is how big of a BS artist Trump is compared to other people in the government. Trump's plot is an inverse of most...he's blatantly lying/making BS up about as often as people are telling the full truth.

This is not a "all politicians lie" thing - this is a "Trump lies A LOT" thing.


The questions I have for you are: why are you defending this? Why does this not disturb or bother you?

This is:
  • bad for policy (garbage in, garbage out - you don't make good policy decisions that are based on bad data/lies)
  • embarrassing for our public image in the world (we look like a laughing stock with a leader that lies as much as Trump does....he gives North Korea's leaders a run for their money)
 
Old 02-16-2017, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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^brainwashed people can't tell the difference from Fact or Ficition even when analysis of it is right in their face.
 
Old 02-16-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ View Post
All President tell versions of the truth for the group they are infron of. Obama was master of this!


9 Biggest Lies Obama Told In His DNC Speech | Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com/news/.../9-biggest-lies-obama-told-his-dnc-speech-aaron-bandler
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Jul 28, 2016 - ... Hillary Clinton. But as is the norm with Obama, his speech was laced with lies. Here are the nine biggest lies that Obama told in his DNC speech. ... It would have been easier to just list what Obama said that was the truth: 1.
That's all fine and good but Obama isn't the president anymore. Hillary is not the candidate anymore. Why do people keep trying to validate the current situation by bringing up the past situation.
 
Old 02-16-2017, 02:00 PM
 
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In the 12 years of FactCheck.org’s existence, we’ve never seen his match.

He stands out not only for the sheer number of his factually false claims, but also for his brazen refusals to admit error when proven wrong.

Donald Trump Dominates List Of 2015's Biggest Lies | The Huffington Post



ummm..........you do know that the "Fact" check sites are also Biased.......


Political Fact-Checking Under Fire : NPR
 
Old 02-16-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Well SNL has their material for this week!
 
Old 02-16-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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Oh my God...I missed the beginning of this conference but I can't believe what he just said about Russian provocations...


Reporter: Can we assume there will be no response?


Trump: I'm not going to talk about what we're going to do militarily....




Does he realize he just threatened another nuclear power with military action??


What deal is he thinking to make with Putin?


Why is he still talking about Hillary?



? you consider "i'm not going to talk about what we are going to do militarily" A threat......?
 
Old 02-16-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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He lies a lot.
What lies are you talking about, specifically?
 
Old 02-16-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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Right now, he's "fabricating untruths" a mile a minute at his Fake News press conference. Bombastic statements are flying as usual! His "hot air" is now a major source of global warming!
What "untruths" are you talking about, specifically?
 
Old 02-16-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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Yeah, I watch. He's a lunatic. He's still yapping about Hillary and his electoral votes. He's a douche. I don't know why the press don't band together and start telling him what's up.
And how would they do that?
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