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Old 02-21-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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What makes you think they are false? Ami used the Swedish government's official statistics as per his conversation with Tucker Carlson. He didn't cite an "anonymous source." He gave us the source.

But, nice try.
facts are a real hardship for the rightwing racists. They hate facts, because facts can disprove rumors with ease.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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Any more than a Nobel Peace Prize, right?
So you think Henry Kissinger is "left-wing?"
Yasser Arafat?
Le Dec Tho?
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:31 PM
 
Location: My House
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Don Lemon interviews the maker of the film "Stockholm Syndrome." The film contains unsubstantiated crime statistics, but Trump and the right wing media continue to propagate the falsehood that crime in Sweden has had a huge spike and that's it's caused by Muslim immigrants.

Don Lemon: “We looked at the stats from the U.S. State Department. Here’s what we learned: Crime rose about 7% from 2015; much of that was non-violent computer fraud and vandalism. In 2015 violent crime would decrease slightly,”

Fake News exists and the primary source of it is Trump, Breitbart, etc.

Don Lemon Calls Out Ami Horowitz Over Incorrect Sweden Stats | Mediaite
Because they (the people spreading false news, not all Trump supporters) desperately need for Trump not to have been lying?

That is what I suspect, anyway.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Finland
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evil - look at my post - again - someone who is believing figures a gov't puts out as they want everyone to believe it's all wine and roses. Visit Twitter and talk to Swedish people - look at you tube - quit sticking your head in the sand.
I have friends in Sweden, in Stockholm in particular. Guess what? They say its not all riots and raping there either, but a rather pleasant place to live and raise children. I live next door in Finland and have a refugee centre in my town - no raping or rioting round here either, except for an incident when drunk neo-nazi locals attacked some of the refugees who, understandably, defended themselves.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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Trump said "Look at what's going on in Sweden! Sweden of all places."

Looks to me like something is going on there.

I never heard President Trump reference a terrorist attack... yet anyway, and if he did, he's just psychic... Trump being Trump.
I don't want to belabor this point, but he very specifically did not say that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0tSLV3GGQc

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You look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden! Who would believe this? Sweden! They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible.
Whatever, he meant something else...but it's not what he said.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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Conservatives are anti-Sweden because their hay haired cheeto king told them to be. If the UK disinvites him, they will go on the list too. Australia, Mexico, Sweden, possibly the UK all bad. Russia good.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:36 PM
 
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So you think Henry Kissinger is "left-wing?"
Yasser Arafat?
Le Dec Tho?
Are we now at the point where we are disregarding Pulitzer Prizes to discredit a fact checking service because it makes Trump look bad?

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Old 02-21-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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evil - look at my post - again - someone who is believing figures a gov't puts out as they want everyone to believe it's all wine and roses. Visit Twitter and talk to Swedish people - look at you tube - quit sticking your head in the sand.

Actual statistics be damned, it is what people post on you tube and twitter that count.... This is an actual argument??
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The Swedish government official stats show crime rates haven't changed much since 2005.
Incorrect. Ami used the Swedish government stats.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z43-eUAYLxw
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Our President stood in front of a crowd of 9,000 at the Orlando-Melbourne airport where 49 people were murdered only miles away and didn't say one freaking word about them. But he made up a story about an incident in Sweden, a country with a fraction of the U.S. crime rate, that never happened.

...and people are actually defending him.

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