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Wrong. Hospitals are forced to treat them. Then the hospital increases everyone else's costs if the patient can't pay. Sometimes the hospitals go bankrupt because of this.
That's non-responsive. Hospitals might be forced to treat them, but what makes you think they would go to the hospital? What makes you think they don't accept the fact they don't have insurance? Surely some do, but you have no data to back up anything you're saying. And if they do go the hospital, they're still required to pay, and if they don't they can go to jail.
Don't act like Americans without health insurance are causing hospitals to go bankrupt. That's a result of illegal aliens who are essentially immune to punishment. Americans without health insurance generally suck it up and deal with it.
Looks like some of the ACA insurance providers are weighing in on the expected changes to the ACA. And stating they are looking at 40% increases in costs. Basically it's back to covering the costs of all those who choose not to have insurance.
I think some of the GOP reps are going to freak out when they realize they are stuck. Trumps actions alone will doom the ACA, but they can't find a cheaper solution. Just worse ones.
I don't think they thought their plan all the way through.
But I'll will say this, it looks like they will leave a lot of it up to states.....and the blue states will have the money to do it right. The red states just don't have the population density, and high tech income. Interesting times.
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Said this at the time and yes, rate hikes are likely going to happen. What else can insurers do when faced with the near certainty of providing coverage for largely a sick/high use pool with a very small number of healthy/low risk.
ACA insurers must file their plans by April, so unless GOP comes up with something acceptable in the next few weeks, thing will be what they will be.
what you guys are forgetting is that the ACA was DESIGNED to collapse under its own weight after a number of years. obama himself even said it would take about 10-15 years before the collapse would happen, and that the only supposed cure was forcing single payer on the country.
we can have a much better system than what we got, and it can be done far more inexpensively than you might think. what we need is real competition in the health insurance industry, much like that in the auto insurance industry.
and there should be NO federal mandate to buy insurance, i have no issue with the states requiring the people to buy health insurance though.
too much crap is run through the federal government, and it needs to stop.
There should be a cost of insurance for us normal people. Then there should a multiplier of 3 for Liberals.
Libs love paying for other peoples freebies so we should let them.
We are already carrying your broke red states. Blue states contribute more and take less, red states are mostly broke from awful management failed policies and yet they continue to vote red cause they think the deems want to take their churches babies and guns, a myth sold to you by the GOP to keep you voting against tour own interests decade after decade. Fool you once and all that...
The GOP saw th writing on the wall and came up with a plan to get you to keep voting yourself onto poverty..
That's non-responsive. Hospitals might be forced to treat them, but what makes you think they would go to the hospital? What makes you think they don't accept the fact they don't have insurance? Surely some do, but you have no data to back up anything you're saying. And if they do go the hospital, they're still required to pay, and if they don't they can go to jail.
Don't act like Americans without health insurance are causing hospitals to go bankrupt. That's a result of illegal aliens who are essentially immune to punishment. Americans without health insurance generally suck it up and deal with it.
It's called EMTALA
The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) was passed by the US Congress in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Reconciliation Act (COBRA), much of which dealt with Medicare issues. The law's initial intent was to ensure patient access to emergency medical care and to prevent the practice of patient dumping, in which uninsured patients were transferred, solely for financial reasons, from private to public hospitals without consideration of their medical condition or stability for the transfer.
Looks like some of the ACA insurance providers are weighing in on the expected changes to the ACA. And stating they are looking at 40% increases in costs. Basically it's back to covering the costs of all those who choose not to have insurance.
I think some of the GOP reps are going to freak out when they realize they are stuck. Trumps actions alone will doom the ACA, but they can't find a cheaper solution. Just worse ones.
I don't think they thought their plan all the way through.
But I'll will say this, it looks like they will leave a lot of it up to states.....and the blue states will have the money to do it right. The red states just don't have the population density, and high tech income. Interesting times.
#1 The ACA was dying on its own before Trump. Other than perhaps Obama, no one, no one outside of the various insurance monopolies would be happy if the ACA was still here 50 years from now.
#2 The Republicans didn't organize themselves well and position a real plan. They are in a pinch.
#3 I would support a plan similar to France's where they have competition, but coverage for all citizens.
#4 The youth support a national system - sooner or later it will happen. If the Republicans were wiser, they would see the future, offer the Democrats a plan like France's in exchange for something huge that they want.
Control cost is the key to any future plans and maybe have the cost lines as Medicare has and have tort reform .
Tort reform will save million.
Tort reform is already in place in over half the states in the country. The insurance companies did not pass any cost savings to the patients, they kept the profits. Texas has tort reform and has one of the highest percentages of uninsured in the country.
Tort reform is already in place in over half the states in the country. The insurance companies did not pass any cost savings to the patients, they kept the profits. Texas has tort reform and has one of the highest percentages of uninsured in the country.
It ill interesting how the plan unfolds and the OP thinks it doomed from the start. Many are jumping the gun!
Tort reform has been around for a while. I don't know why the GOP even says it any more. But it's just a gift to insurance companies because their risk is limited and they do not pass the savings on to customers, they just keep the profits. The problem with profit based health care is costs have to go up every year in order for companies to show YOY revenue growth. Costs have to go up and tort reform is just another way to give insurance companies money.
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