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Old 02-21-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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[quote=thecoalman;47276367]Considering we spend more per student than most other countries can you blame her?


If you look at percent spent on education filtered by GDP the U.S. ranks only 58th.
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Old 02-21-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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This is what liberals have turned this country into. Our public officials have to be guarded against our own citizens. This is not the country I grew up in and put on a uniform to protect against our enemies. The enemy is among us now.
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Old 02-21-2017, 06:50 PM
 
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If you look at percent spent on education filtered by GDP the U.S. ranks only 58th.
Being rich is no excuse for failure when other nations are outperforing you with less levels of funding.

Here in PA we are now spending about $16K per student on average, that has doubled in the last two decades and yes that doubling is adjusted for inflation. Testing scores have remained flatlined....

I'm an advocate for publicly funded education but clearly our sytem is broken, it's time for a different path.
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Old 02-21-2017, 06:56 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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No one knows what to do about education. The teachers really do care and maybe someone should ask THEM sometime.

Once again...students from poor homes with parents who don't read and aren't interesting in learning and education do not do well in school.

Students from good homes with parents who are well read, are interested in learning and education DO well in school.

It all starts in the home. Can we go into their homes and yank them out and give them to good parents? That would be about the only solution. Less drastic solutions might be after school programs that keep the kids in school for a few more hours with teachers or tutors offering help with school work and guidance about their family problems. IT ALL STARTS IN THE HOME.
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Old 02-21-2017, 07:06 PM
 
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"Poor" schools are usually located in poor towns and cities. "Good" schools are usually located in higher income towns and cities. Higher income usually = highly educated = parents who will motivate their kids to learn and do well in school.

If you took a few of those poor kids and had them all to yourself with a few books, computers, paper, pencils, chalkboards and chalk, you could teach them and they would learn. A FEW kids getting A LOT of HELP. Not even a lot of supplies or money thrown at them. It's a social problem and it can only be fixed by a lot of help and attention to the kids. Discipline so they can settle down and pay attention, encouragement so they don't get discouraged, and attention because they probably are not getting much at home.

But back to this woman--I don't think she even has a clue. If she never taught a class, she won't know the obvious. Public, vouchers, whatever--doesn't make much difference.

Send everyone to private school where they get the personal attention and guidance minus any possible bad influence of the parents and you'd get success--of course. The rich can do that.
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Old 02-21-2017, 07:09 PM
 
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Considering we spend more per student than most other countries can you blame her?



I'll take that as a positive sign.
Huh?
Where did you get that notion?

Teacher salaries by country - Business Insider

If you want to make money as a teacher, move to Luxembourg. Or Ireland.

DeVos is charged with keeping our education to all free, for the richest and poorest of us alike. That's her job now, but she has no public education of her own, and neither does her children. And has absolutely no experience in the education field in any capacity, either, except as an advocate for private schools.

All I can say is the woman had better have a quick mind and a thick hide. If she lacks either, she will be a total failure leading the Department she heads, and will be very miserable while failing. She's a billionaire's kid, who is married to a billionaire.

Not so good for a state district in states like Alaska, where just finding a teacher who's willing to serve a remote school district is almost impossible. How is a coddled rich woman who knows nothing about that kind of desperation going to respond?
If she has no idea what Alaska is up against, trying to find a teacher, even if a second-rate one, to teach in a place no outsider would ever want to live in?

Gonna have a very rough time of it. I feel sorry for Betsy.

But that's what you get when you elect a President who can't read.
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Old 02-21-2017, 07:14 PM
 
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This is what liberals have turned this country into. Our public officials have to be guarded against our own citizens. This is not the country I grew up in and put on a uniform to protect against our enemies. The enemy is among us now.
Yeah, yeah, you grew up in a country that needed National Guard troops to protect certain students from genuine threats of bodily harm.......remember? Kids having to walk through lines of inbred cretins all yelling hate and invective at them. Your DeVos is a whimp.

Who made the determination she needed protection? Did she get some nasty E-mails and as a card carrying "snowflake", demand guys with guns around her?
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Old 02-21-2017, 07:24 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcp8osYmU88
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Old 02-21-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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Huh?
Where did you get that notion?

Teacher salaries by country - Business Insider
Do you understand the meaning of the qualifier "most".



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All I can say is the woman had better have a quick mind and a thick hide.
There should be expectations she is intelligent and can take criticism. Having armed Marshall's guarding her is not to be expected.
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Old 02-21-2017, 07:35 PM
 
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Yeah, yeah, you grew up in a country that needed National Guard troops to protect certain students from genuine threats of bodily harm.......remember? Kids having to walk through lines of inbred cretins all yelling hate and invective at them. Your DeVos is a whimp.

Who made the determination she needed protection? Did she get some nasty E-mails and as a card carrying "snowflake", demand guys with guns around her?
News flash, it's no longer the 1960's.
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