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Why do you think the only choices are going to bed with Putin and having a cold war?
Wake up and smell the coffee. Putin is using Trumps naivete to advance his own interests.
Look! Nobody said a damn thing about going to bed with Putin. Better relations with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. Better relations with any country is good. Wrap your liberal mind around that. Think!!!!
Anyone that ever thought that Russia would give up direct possession of the Crimea with the navy base at Sevastopol is deluding themselves. That would never happen no matter if Russia calls itself the Soviet Union, Russian Republic or the New Rome.
I agree with PM that whatever Russia is doing with or to its non NATO neighbors in "None of our business". Neither is their deal with Iran to ship Iranian oil through Syria to eastern Europe and start the bankruptcy of Saudi Arabia.
What exactly is anything? Are we surprised that Japan or Germany is an ally? Are we not shocked that we are allies with the land of the Nazis and the seas of kamikaze? The Soviet union was a Marxist empire. Russia is a nation state which runs on neoliberalism, just like we do.
I specifically mean Rs who now think Putin (i.e., Russia) is our good buddy.
There's a difference between identifying areas where we can - and should - cooperate with Russia and thinking that Putin is a small-d democrat who can be trusted to have our back.
I've always been for cooperation, and think that Russian inclusion in joint international efforts in science, for example, is totally heartening.
And that was my opinion 30 years ago when Rs were unanimously calling Russia the evil empire and worrying about those commies lurking under their beds. But Putin/Russia have a long way to go before they convince me that they are no longer interested in armed conquest and maintaining those conquests by repression.
And they're not neoliberal, unless you are using a pretty different definition than I do. Putin/Russia is still basically a totalitarian state, they're just more willing to allow a popular culture than the old guard was. A lot like China in that respect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
Originally Posted by Scotty011 View Post
I am part of America that would rather see improved relations with Russia rather that have another nasty cold war.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
Why do you think the only choices are going to bed with Putin or having a cold war?
scotty011 said nothing close to your statement.
Why do you change "improved relations with Russia" to "going to bed with Putin " ?
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