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Originally Posted by BellaLind
I didn't say you said to tolerate it. The other post is about how liberals say girls should tolerate men being in their changing rooms. Here it is implied with comments from posters who say those of us who think it's wrong are liberals and feminazis (I am neither) and need to accept that men will be men and such. The people here who say "men will be men" and tell women that's just the way it is are being hypocritical and I'm calling them out on it.
These girls aren't out alone. They are riding their bikes in the neighborhood with friends, standing at the bus stop to go to school, you know, being kids. They shouldn't have to put up with adult men's sexual comments. Do t you agree?
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You quoted me and then stated that "Conservatives" say to "tolerate it". I never said that, is why I responded the way I did.
I never said anyone should "tolerate it". And yes, "men will be men". Some guys ARE like that. Not ALL guys are like that. Not even MOST guys are like that. But that doesn't stop feminazi sites like BuzzFeed and HuffPost and others from insinuating that all guys, or even most guys, are like that. That is where I take issue and toss out the statements about feminism. Most females say that guys like this are "scum". Ok, then why do you listen to or care what scum says? Who cares. Consider the source. Why on earth do you care what some scum bag thinks of you or says to you?
As for younger people, at some point, you have to teach your children about these things. If parents want teachers teaching sex ed and homosexuality in schools, then they need to tackle the fact that some people out there are sick Fs who will take advantage if given the opportunity, but that it does not mean that ALL people are out to take advantage. (Remember, there are female predators, as well.) And that when someone says, "You look nice" it's not a GD attack!
I TELL other females that they look nice all the time, if I think they do. So what! SO WHAT! But it's getting to the point that some lunatics out there are even stating that other females "shouldn't be focusing on what someone looks like". Pissed off because I pay someone a compliment? Usually when I do, it's because that color looks so fricken good on them, the words are out of my mouth before I know it. Or that outfit that they are wearing looks great on them, or their haircut that you can tell they just got done looks fantastic....and some people want to stop all of that. From everyone. 'Compliments' are now evil, according to some. They are "oppressive" according to some. To people who think that, **** off.
If a guy says you look great, or if they saw you smile and say, "You have a great smile", it's not a personal attack, they aren't trying to take advantage of you, they aren't lusting after you. When I tell people that they look good, I'm not lusting after them or trying to take advantage of them.
Telling people that they can't compliment others because it's "oppressive" (I swear, these SJWs have no idea what true oppression...or really, anything horrific....is and have to make things up to be the victims that they so desire to be) is going against anything that humans are, naturally. Humans are naturally drawn to that which attracts them, whether it be another person or a beautiful lake, or the ocean, or the starry night sky, or a cute animal, etc. It's not a fricken attack. It's a compliment.
If someone screams something in a car as they drive by, half the time, I can't even figure out wth they just said. Do people not realize that when you are traveling at a speed while another person is not or is traveling at a much slower speed, the sound waves are all jacked up by the time they reach the other person?
You could scream: "I love you" as you drive by, and because of how fast you're traveling, the person who is next to motionless as far as speed will only hear: "I luballooouaaaouea aaaalou".
People walking behind you making comments? Stop walking, let them pass.
Some guy says something as he passes you? So what, move on with your life. Who said you have to stop and react to every single person you see? You don't.
Some guy motions for you to remove your headphones, and you do? Why? What are you taking with you when you jog? You should know where your keys are at all times. You shouldn't have your music up so loud that you can't hear what is going on around you. So why would you need to stop?
I had one guy calling after me as I walked away from a building. I ignored him the entire time, even when he yelled, "You dropped your money". I kept walking. He got NO reaction out of me...as it was clearly all that he wanted. That's all he wanted, a reaction. I did not give it to him. I heard him say, when I didn't even react to his money dropping bit, "Damn!!" because I gave him nothing.
I knew exactly where my money was. I was that confident with myself and everything on me to know better than to fall for that. Still, when I got home, I double checked my money to prove to myself that I was right..and I was. I most certainly did not drop any money, just as I knew I hadn't.
You're wondering what that has to do with anything, perhaps, but it illustrates what I'm talking about. If you are that aware of what you're doing, what others are doing, who you are, what you have, you won't give them the reaction that they want.
At this point someone would jump in and say, "But you see!? You shouldn't have to tolerate that!" There's a LOT of things in this world that we "shouldn't have to" deal with, but we do. We shouldn't have to lose our jobs, but we do. We shouldn't have to deal with aholes who blare their GD bass all day long, but we do. We shouldn't have to put up with an upstairs neighbor stomping around like a prehistoric elephant at 5 am, daily, but we do. We shouldn't have to put up with the overwhelming smell of fish in the meat aisle of the grocery store, but we do. We shouldn't have to put up with morons on the road who don't know how to drive, but we do. We shouldn't have to put with co-workers who pop popcorn in the microwave and burn it every. single. time. but we do. The list goes on. There's all kinds of things we "shouldn't have to" do, but we do. Because this is a society. You take the good with the bad.
Words are only hurtful if you allow them to hurt you. Someone "sssssssss" ing you as you walk down the sidewalk only hurts you if you allow it to hurt you. Someone whistling and implying that you should take your top off only hurts you if you allow it to hurt you. Someone yelling incoherent crap as they drive by is actually more humorous than anything because they are too stupid to realize that no one can understand wtf they are saying....but it only hurts you if you allow it to. Someone saying "your hair is gorgeous, you should wear it up (or down)" is not hurting you, unless you allow it to hurt you.
If you don't care for their opinion, simply say "thank you" and move on. You simply say "I'm not interested" and move on. You simply ignore them and move on. YOU have the power to allow what they say to hurt you or not. They don't have that power unless you give them that power.
No one is physically touching you.
In the end, they simply want a reaction out of you. Stop giving it to them. You will never stop people in society from acting like this. That's what those who say "men will be men" are saying. No, not all men are like this. Not even most men are like this. Some are.
It doesn't matter how many posts you all put up on City Data, or in comments sections to "news" papers, or videos are made, or how many meetings you hold, or how many times you berate people, you will never stop people from thinking how they want to think.
In fact, the more that people push others to conform, the more they push those people to the extremes - where those people more than likely would not have gone before.
As for males in the bathroom...you see this as similar, I don't see it as similar at all. I'm not interested in having a discussion with people (not saying you) who don't even understand basic science to know that there are 2 genders: male and female. It doesn't matter what you "feel like" that day, the parts that you have define who you are regarding which bathroom you use. Claiming that gender is a "social construct" is an oxymoron. Those who deny the fact that there's 2 genders are those who are denying reality.
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