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Old 02-23-2017, 12:53 AM
 
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Wow! Kinda makes me want to hold a koran burning party in front of the nearest mosque. Maybe after drawing pornographic cartoons of the pedophile Mohamed.
Go ahead. I have a mosque in mind you can do it at. Lemme know when you do it so i can film you getting your ass beat.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:58 AM
 
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Ideally, people would treat each other with respect and not go out of their way to insult or provoke. But given the incredibly presumptuous and arrogant demands made by the followers of Islam, and their violence and threats against those who don't comply, I think defiance is in order.
Well, what are you waiting for? Let's see some defiance.

What do you plan to do?
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is burning a book a crime in Denmark? What century are we living in?
It's not about what century you're living in. The question is what COUNTRY are you living in?

That person was living in Denmark, and the Danes want their laws to be respected apparently.
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No its not. Its very common. You just made that up.

Back to this story, I dont think anything will happen. Its probably some type of very old law that wont cause anyone to be convicted in this day and age.
Yeah...i can't see the man getting convicted. But it is an illustration of how different the laws can be in other countries.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:59 AM
 
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Wow! Kinda makes me want to hold a koran burning party in front of the nearest mosque. Maybe after drawing pornographic cartoons of the pedophile Mohamed.
The ironic thing is, if feminists really wanted to show solidarity for women's rights, instead of wearing vagina hats they would hold a woman's Quran burning day/week.

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Old 02-23-2017, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Burning the Quran wasn't the issue, it was filing it and then posting it on an anti-Islamic Facebook group, stating "Yes to freedom - no to Islam" along with the words, “Consider your neighbour: it stinks when it burns."

I agree that charging him with blasphemy is a bit odd, but he may well have been charged with inciting religious hatred in other countries, perhaps Denmark doesn't have inciting religous hatred laws, so used old blasphemy laws in order to prosecute.

You are free to burn the Quran in private in most countries, indeed who is going to now. It's the doing it in public or publicising it in order to provoke hatred that is usually the part that breaches laws.

The Law in the UK states "A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening... if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred" - so it has to be threatening, which is for the Courts to decide. Similar rules apply to racial hatred.
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:46 AM
 
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Danish law is just that...Danish law.

Their society is hundreds of years older than ours and they've apparently had a lot of success with whatever formula they've used up to this point.

So who are we to say what they should or shouldn't charge that person with. Don't break the law if you don't wanna be charged. I mean...whaddya want us to say? That we should drop a nuke on the big bad Danish people? SMH
Ridiculous post.

In another thread on Iran you blasted the US repeating the mistakes of the past and here you excuse a ridiculous action by the Danish government on the grounds that their society has been around longer than ours...you completely ignore the principle of Denmark's action of enforcing an antiquated law and excuse it with the past.
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Old 02-23-2017, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Go ahead. I have a mosque in mind you can do it at. Lemme know when you do it so i can film you getting your ass beat.
SO you would advocate denieing the poster his constitutional rights with the threat of violence
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Old 02-23-2017, 06:08 AM
 
Location: NJ
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is burning a book a crime in Denmark? What century are we living in?
The EPA would charge him as a human caused global warming denier.


flag burning has been proved to be cleaner burning so no charges there.


wonder if you can burn the denmark flag without legal prosecution?


Denmark's rules to counter balance the nazi and viking book and scroll burnings.
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:52 AM
 
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Danish law is just that...Danish law.

Their society is hundreds of years older than ours and they've apparently had a lot of success with whatever formula they've used up to this point.

So who are we to say what they should or shouldn't charge that person with. Don't break the law if you don't wanna be charged. I mean...whaddya want us to say? That we should drop a nuke on the big bad Danish people? SMH
In Pakistan blasphemy is punishable by death. Is that ok too?

If you look at a map of countries with blasphemy laws the Danish appear on the wrong side of this.

Which countries still outlaw apostasy and blasphemy? | Pew Research Center
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Well, looks like Denmark has a law against such actions, and the argument has been that all laws must be enforced, so what is to scary about it?
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Old 02-23-2017, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Burning the Quran wasn't the issue, it was filing it and then posting it on an anti-Islamic Facebook group, stating "Yes to freedom - no to Islam" along with the words, “Consider your neighbour: it stinks when it burns."

I agree that charging him with blasphemy is a bit odd, but he may well have been charged with inciting religious hatred in other countries, perhaps Denmark doesn't have inciting religous hatred laws, so used old blasphemy laws in order to prosecute.

You are free to burn the Quran in private in most countries, indeed who is going to now. It's the doing it in public or publicising it in order to provoke hatred that is usually the part that breaches laws.

The Law in the UK states "A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening... if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred" - so it has to be threatening, which is for the Courts to decide. Similar rules apply to racial hatred.
...not to provoke hatred but to defy demands that everyone, including non-Muslims, submit to Muslim religious taboos on pain of death.
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