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There are also checkpoints checking for D/L, insurance cards and registration.
Give up. You are badly losing this argument both legally and constitutional grounds.
The SCOTUS ruling you are trying to offer is for DUI checkpoints, and you know it. Their argument was that such search was reasonable given the fact that drunken drivers pose a serious danger to fellow motorists.
It is reasonable to make sure you are not letting a known terrorist onto a flight.
But is that the only reason the government ever checks ID's?
In any case, the question is whether or not this was an "unreasonable search". The courts have established that it is not an unreasonable search.
The police can force almost anyone to show their ID, for almost any reason, especially when they are in public. I mean, what do you think the "stop and frisk" laws were?
You act like this is new, or is part of some Trump crackdown on illegal immigrants.
This has been going on for decades, and has even been supported by very liberal New York City.
There probably became evidence, sometime after the people boarded the flight, that one of the people who boarded was a fugitive(IE had broken a law). And law enforcement(in this case, immigration enforcement) was looking for the fugitive.
Last edited by Redshadowz; 02-25-2017 at 11:38 AM..
Which state does this? I have lived in about 10 of them and have never seen a checkpoint like this.
My state sets up these checkpoints all the time. Usually they are located on roads in such a way, that by the time you see them, there is no way to can "turn off" the road, and are thus forced to go through them(if you try to turn off/turn around, they send someone after you).
Most of the time they are set up during holiday weekends to look for drunk drivers. But they always ask for Driver's license/insurance as well.
In any case, I'm sure you've watched the movies where the police are looking for a fugitive, and they setup checkpoints all around the area where they think the fugitive might be. They will stop every car, ask for identification, and they could probably even do a limited search of the vehicle.
The question isn't honestly whether the police should have the power to force people to show their ID in the case that they believe there is a fugitive on a plane.
The real question is simply, what are the standards required? Everyone would agree that roadblocks are acceptable in the case of a murderer, or an escaped prisoner. And with the Boston Bombers, they were searching every single house, throughout entire neighborhoods.
In most states, the police can already force you to show your ID if there is any suspicion that you have committed a crime, or that you might intend to commit a crime(IE stop and frisk).
This whole debate is about what we individually feel is reasonable or unreasonable. The more radical among us, probably feel like the police never have the right to ask for ID, unless they have a warrant. While the bootlickers among us, probably think the police have an almost-unlimited right to ID you.
Who is right? I don't really know. But I've been "stopped while walking" three times. Every time was at night, and the police always claim that the reason they stopped me was because there have been burglaries in the area.
Did they have the right to stop me? By law, and the courts, they did. I thought it was pretty annoying at the time. But I can understand why they would do it. I don't think they had any malice against me.
Damn! You liberals are so paranoid it is pitiful. Why not check the reason something is done before hitting the panic button? I know it is hard for liberals to think clearly.
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