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No, the ACA was not a good start. It only harmed those of us that want Universal Health Care in the same way Hillary did in the 90's. What both did was further erode any trust in the people in believing that the government can do this.
Huh? The GOP never supported UHC and democrats (or republicans for the matter) don't vote as a single bloc. UHC will require support from both sides of the aisle.
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I understand that argument. It's a legitimate argument. People are not going to change their views here unless someone is willing to be honest about all of this and even then it's uphill.
Obama had a grand opportunity but blew it. Even if he couldn't have got full UHC in place he could have set it in motion. Instead he lied and gave away the house to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries. We can't fix that until it's first acknowledged.
Obama can't make democratic legislators vote as a single block as not all democrats support UHC. Sadly, the current alternative to ACA makes the same mistake for not mandating some sort of minimum coverage from everyone. Until you mandate everyone has some sort of basic, catastrophic coverage (like car insurance) then you are not saving money.
And they elect Pelosi and Shumer to run their party in Congress.
Keep believing and the dems lost seats will INCREASE past the 1,000 they have already lost.
Many Democrats like Pelosi and Schumer. However, you overlooked the fact that I stated that Dems are also looking to get newer, younger candidates in office and I personally am not expecting them to make hardly any gains in 2018 unless Trumps and friends bumble on ACA (this is a reason why I would prefer to let the GOP do what they want as soon as possible, I foresee people losing coverage and getting those cheap crappy plans again and them not being happy about it).
Also, I'm not a Democrat. The poster I was responding to asked if people are looking at anything other than CD. I responded that I do. I review a lot of different opinions and my explanation that you quoted is based upon a varied amount of various media sources along with me knowing quite a few Democrats personally, including elected officals, delegates and persons who work in both paid and volunteer positions with the DNC or local chapter of the Democratic party in places I've lived over the past 10 years.
The work I used to do meant I had to know a lot of political people and attend a lot of political meetings. Due to that, I know quite a few professional politicians or very devoted political activists on both sides. Knowing these people and knowing the parties is what keeps me from joining them lol.
Many Democrats like Pelosi and Schumer. However, you overlooked the fact that I stated that Dems are also looking to get newer, younger candidates in office and I personally am not expecting them to make hardly any gains in 2018 unless Trumps and friends bumble on ACA (this is a reason why I would prefer to let the GOP do what they want as soon as possible, I foresee people losing coverage and getting those cheap crappy plans again and them not being happy about it).
Also, I'm not a Democrat. The poster I was responding to asked if people are looking at anything other than CD. I responded that I do. I review a lot of different opinions and my explanation that you quoted is based upon a varied amount of various media sources along with me knowing quite a few Democrats personally, including elected officals, delegates and persons who work in both paid and volunteer positions with the DNC or local chapter of the Democratic party in places I've lived over the past 10 years.
The work I used to do meant I had to know a lot of political people and attend a lot of political meetings. Due to that, I know quite a few professional politicians or very devoted political activists on both sides. Knowing these people and knowing the parties is what keeps me from joining them lol.
Pelosi is a solid fundraiser, and she's liked in the liberal bubbles most Dems live in. The appeal for Schumer is a bit murkier but I guess he was "next in line". I feel within the DNC there's a struggle between the traditional Dems and the Bernie progressives. The traditional Dems don't dare to step out of line since they know how nasty progressives can get. They'll be run out of town.
Trump and the GOPs best hopes are the 10 Democratic Senators in red states who are up for re-election in 2018. If they are liberal lemmings and obstruct everything Trump/GOP wants to do, they'll be goners.
Very mature, just like your former president. Elections have consequences. You can come along but you have to ride in the back of the bus.
Everyone knows liberals are all take and no action, just another example of their "do as I say, not as I do" policy.
What have the republicans done in the past 6+ years, except try to repeal ACA which they knew that they couldn't. Why didn't they at least inform their voters that ACA and Obamacare is the same thing?
Huh? The GOP never supported UHC and democrats (or republicans for the matter) don't vote as a single bloc. UHC will require support from both sides of the aisle.
No it wouldn't have. The (D)'s had an overwhelming majority in the House and got to 60 in the Senate. If Obama had done things right they could have built on that as opposed to getting wiped out.
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Obama can't make democratic legislators vote as a single block as not all democrats support UHC. Sadly, the current alternative to ACA makes the same mistake for not mandating some sort of minimum coverage from everyone. Until you mandate everyone has some sort of basic, catastrophic coverage (like car insurance) then you are not saving money.
If he would have passed rules making it unlawful to deny people coverage for pre existing conditions and allowing your kids to stay on your policy until 26 while addressing the cost side he would have remained very popular. He then could have built from there. He would have got the needed help.
What have the republicans done in the past 6+ years, except try to repeal ACA which they knew that they couldn't. Why didn't they at least inform their voters that ACA and Obamacare is the same thing?
They are well aware of that. This is what lost the (D)'s the election and yet you still continue.
I'm 26. I feel the same way your daughter did but I will always vote in every election no matter how bad it gets as I see it as being a responsibility for this country that others have fought and died for the right to vote.
There's always a divide between young and old. When you're young, you tend to be more progressive, open to ideas and change. Once you get older, you get stuck in your old ways and resist change. That's just how people are.
But yes young people in particular are struggling disproportionately versus other generations and they don't have a voice at the table because of older folks. I'm with this too, I get angry knowing my parents and family voted against me and so are countless other friends who are my age. This disproportionate suffering is causing a big backlash against the status quo and will flip the system upside down regardless if the older folks like it or not. Capitalism doesn't work for the younger generation right now. They look to other European countries for evidence and they have very socialistic policies that gives a more fair playing field.
The young people think in general the Democrats are too moderate. They need them to be left wing and progressive. ACA was a good start, but not good enough, we need to go towards single payer period. Outlaw all greedy insurance companies, get rid of the for-profit motive of Pharma. Crack down on large corporations, break up banks, break up big communication companies. Etc.. They're really left wing ideas that goes back to the Teddy Roosevelt era where he was "Trust Busting" and broke up companies cause they were too big and had too much power. Same thing that needs to happen today.
I'm fully on board with the Bernie train and it needs to happen. We're headed as a country there regardless if people realize it or not. It'll only be a matter of time until everyone gets a slap on the face. Then we'll get someone similar to FDR who proposed a "New Deal" and created a strong social safety net in response to the Great Depression.
Does anyone still believe that Democrats have any interest to work together to get things done or will they just keep dividing and working against the will of the people who chose to change to back away from another Democratic President for a reason!
Not even choosing the first female President was what moved the Democrats to a win as they lost the election in the part where it counts.
Watching Schumer on NBC now saying he didn't see anything positive the President said last night seems to confirm the Democrats will fight this government on literally everything!
I'm liberal and I will admit the Democrat leadership is complete garbage. They had one man who was able to connect with people (Bernie) and they gave him the back of their hand. They're losers.
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