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Old 03-03-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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If contracts are already awarded or in place then changing them midstream would create an uproar with the contractors and significantly increase costs. Materials may not even be available to use. They have bid based on specific materials and costs. The Buy American for the steel pipe will cause a contract to be more expensive and we will have to be good with that.
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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If we want the pipeline work to start quickly to get things moving in America, it may just be at this time that we can't require that materials all be bought in America for a variety of reasons, some of which probably include NAFTA, materials already purchased in anticipation of the project going ahead (before it was cancelled earlier) or our companies just not being ramped up enough to supply whatever is required quick enough to meet project deadlines.
All of this plus this:
Much of that steel has sat exposed to the elements in several giant stockyards along the pipeline's route for more than two years. Analysts said some of it will need to be replaced.
American steel unlikely to get Keystone boost despite Trump order | Reuters
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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This is a Canadian pipeline to sell oil to China and put our land at risk of oil spills.
Not that any Trump supporter cares. You're wasting your breath trying to break this down to its specific details (which aren't what Trump promised).
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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If we want the pipeline work to start quickly to get things moving in America, it may just be at this time that we can't require that materials all be bought in America for a variety of reasons, some of which probably include NAFTA, materials already purchased in anticipation of the project going ahead (before it was cancelled earlier) or our companies just not being ramped up enough to supply whatever is required quick enough to meet project deadlines.
May, probably, whatever. Seriously?

They're very poor EXCUSES.

That pipeline isn't going to get anything going.
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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Who's refining the oil? Who's using the oil?

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These will quickly drop to around 40 once the pipeline is built.

May not even be 40 Americans as it is Canadian, after all.
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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If contracts are already awarded or in place then changing them midstream would create an uproar with the contractors and significantly increase costs. Materials may not even be available to use. They have bid based on specific materials and costs. The Buy American for the steel pipe will cause a contract to be more expensive and we will have to be good with that.
So the taxpayers are supposed to buy American, paying more money for everything but corporations are not?

Yeah right.

How is this: I'm not buying anything unless it is absolutely necessary for as long as the Cheeto is in the WH.
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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What is a trumpettes? Is it insult that you direct at those you disagree with because you lack argument based on logic or fact?
It's like this: Obamabots=Obama supporters

Trumpettes, Trumplings = Trump supporters

Insult for insult. Don't like it when the shoe is in the other foot, huh?
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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I admit I'm not fully aware of all the intricacies of this pipeline, it is my understanding that the owners are a private company and they are not bound by rules and regulations for purchase of materials as a government contract (i.e. Buy America clause) would require.
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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This is a Canadian pipeline to sell oil to China and put our land at risk of oil spills.
As a train hauling the same oil can do when it derails.
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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As a train hauling the same oil can do when it derails.
So you want to put the trains out of business?

Or are you a retired railroader?
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