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Old 03-06-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Donna-501 View Post
Did you ever hear any of Trump's speeches. If so, than you would know.
I just know that temporary moratorium/suspension, which is what the the EO says, does not mean ban.

I also know that many people seem to hear or read what they want if it's negative or confirms their biases.

You would know that, though.

 
Old 03-06-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"They then bring "the case" to the appropriate legal branch to prosecute or not"

True, usually.

Why didn't Comey refer the Hillary email investigation to the DoJ AFTER he laid out the classified material that she received and had and sent from he PRIVATE server?

The law is VERY clear.
Go reread his letter.
 
Old 03-06-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You have the New York Times and other places talking about Intelligence sources that said they were tapping Trump or his people for at this point a whole year now according to at least 8 various news sources.


Right now Obama and his people are in a bad situation where either way IMO they are screwed.

1. You did get a warrant and spied on an American citizen without probable cause, then illegally leaked that in an effort to undermine a presidential candidate of the United States.

2. There was never any warrant and all of this was an elaborate ruse, ginned up by Obama loyalists and administrative State people to simply destroy a campaign in an illegal fashion.

Note both stated above are very illegal to do with consequences.

Due the nature of classified material at the heart of this, even if they drag Obama in, they would have to do this in a Military Court (and why not since he was the head of the military as well).

This would not be a regular public court where you could get a jury full of government union workers and so forth. Nothing would be regular about this situation.

Yes, conspiracy to overthrow the US.Constitution and it's entirety and relinquish the sovereignty of this once great nation, to a global ruling body.


That is treason to my Freedom & Liberty and I will be damned if they get away with it.
Lock them up is oh too kind.

Hang them all high! and watch them swing to set examples for all that wish to treat the US Constitution as a joke.
 
Old 03-06-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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But, but, but Obama was a "Constitutional law professor" and he got overturned by the courts MORE times then any other President. Some by a Supreme Court 9-0 vote.
no he didn't. GOP leader: Supreme Court has ruled 13 times that Obama exceeded his constitutional authority | PolitiFact
 
Old 03-06-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Originally Posted by RCCCB View Post
You have the New York Times and other places talking about Intelligence sources that said they were tapping Trump or his people for at this point a whole year now according to at least 8 various news sources.


Right now Obama and his people are in a bad situation where either way IMO they are screwed.

1. You did get a warrant and spied on an American citizen without probable cause, then illegally leaked that in an effort to undermine a presidential candidate of the United States.

2. There was never any warrant and all of this was an elaborate ruse, ginned up by Obama loyalists and administrative State people to simply destroy a campaign in an illegal fashion.

Note both stated above are very illegal to do with consequences.

Due the nature of classified material at the heart of this, even if they drag Obama in, they would have to do this in a Military Court (and why not since he was the head of the military as well).

This would not be a regular public court where you could get a jury full of government union workers and so forth. Nothing would be regular about this situation.
Can the President ask the FISA court directly?

You watch, so low-down ******* is going to claim he's solely responsible and then he'll wind up dead in prison as a suicide.
 
Old 03-06-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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Nothing is regular about how you process reality.
Lot of evidence about Obama, lying and spying on Americans,

Lied about Obamacare and fines.
Lied about running guns in Mexico in "Fast and Furious".
Spied on the press.
Spied on allies.

All over the web on hundreds of news sites.
Obama and his administration has a pattern set. We could all add more to my little list.
 
Old 03-06-2017, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I'm no expert but 2 FISA requests sure seems like "something" to me and as I see from the news, many others as well...
what 2 FISA requests?
 
Old 03-06-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Donna-501 View Post
Did you ever hear any of Trump's speeches. If so, than you would know.
This is a hallow point.

Obama gave speeches about a lot of crap that he never actually wound up doing. For example, Obama campaigned against penalties for not having health insurance. Would you likewise mindlessly insist that reality is what he campaigned on?

By definition what Trump did is not a Muslim ban. It impacts all from those countries including Christians. It impacts only 6 of 42 Muslim majority countries. The vast majority of Muslims on earth can still get in.

Democrats are lying by calling it a Muslim ban and those that are not thinking lap it up.
 
Old 03-06-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Fake news, fake news. OP, your messiah and his cohorts are in trouble and deflecting isn't going to help.
 
Old 03-06-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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Can the President ask the FISA court directly?

You watch, so low-down ******* is going to claim he's solely responsible and then he'll wind up dead in prison as a suicide.
The President has his operatives in there doing all this. Of course Obama got 100% of all information about a Presidential candidate during an election gathered through FISA.
In addition, what Obama does have 100% responsibility for was his executive order signed 15 days before he left office ordering the information from one agency to be shared/leaked with many other organizations. That right there broke Fisa law also because the information is to be kept secured and not passed around past the original source, but Obama through his executive order caused Fisa information to be more out there, that also connects him directly to criminal problems. Plus the more it gets out there to others, the greater the risk this turns also RICO.

I mean, good luck with that.
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