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Old 03-04-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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Trump is panicking; worried the FBI/CIA/NSA has information on him. Even counterintel analysts saying this looks really really bad for him.

Anyone still denying that Trump is colluding with Russia is seriously just beyond all hope and is intentionally trolling to rile people up. Those same people will likely deny they ever supporting him once he's found out.
Trump is an amazing president. You just hope and dream something negative will happen to him.... Keep dreaming. Trump 2020!

 
Old 03-04-2017, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Trump is an amazing president. You just hope and dream something negative will happen to him.... Keep dreaming. Trump 2020!
It's true. He's pretty darn amazing.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Btw: No good derogatory names for Trump have come up yet. Maybe "President Dump," or "President Tramp" but neither of those has a good ring to it.

He really is the best President ever.
The Orange One, Orange Hitler, Twitler, Trump Got Tangoed and my particular favourite - SCROTUS (So-Called Ruler Of The United States)
 
Old 03-04-2017, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If Trump has evidence, why doesn't he have his AG build a case instead of blurting out accusations in Tweeter rants? He knows he's the president, does he know he can do that? Does he know how how proper legal procedure works? A case is built first, then they go to an AG so indictments can be filed. You don't just jump to the end and you don't tip your hand before your indictments have been served.

No, I think he just wants to control a narrative that he cannot.
He wants to control the narrative. Now we have two issues. One is his alleged ties with Russians to fix his election. Second one is this new wire tapping issue. There is no proof either one so far. If there is a warrant for wire tapping, it will be interesting see what is it for and what they found out.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Link to what? To the fact that multiple requests were made to get a FISA warrant to wiretap the opposing campaign?

Trump's Wiretapping Claim Based on Warrants Granted to FBI | Fortune.com

FISA warrants are notoriously easy to get. They even got one against James Rosen when Obama was upset with Fox. So this fits with the pattern of abuse by the Obama admin.
Actually, the link you provided indicates that Obama had nothing to do with it and that Trump is making a mountain out of a molehill.

"...The key distinction is that this was an FBI investigation, not an order from the White House itself. Commenting on this morning’s tweets, an Obama spokesman told the New York Times that “no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice.” FBI Director James Comey downplayed the existence of such an investigation at the time, perhaps explaining Trump's having just learned about the efforts..."
 
Old 03-04-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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Russia is a Red Herring. The DNC did it all. Including vote tampering. ...
Fake news.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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Actually, the link you provided indicates that Obama had nothing to do with it and that Trump is making a mountain out of a molehill.

"...The key distinction is that this was an FBI investigation, not an order from the White House itself. Commenting on this morning’s tweets, an Obama spokesman told the New York Times that “no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice.” FBI Director James Comey downplayed the existence of such an investigation at the time, perhaps explaining Trump's having just learned about the efforts..."
Semantics. Holder was involved in getting the FISA warrant against James Rosen. Pretty clear James Rosen was no threat to national security, he was wiretapped because the Obama admin didn't like the reporting on Fox.

The DOJ was under the control of Lynch. Obama couldn't "order" the FISA request, but he could certainly request his friend Lynch try to get one. The Rosen incident proves the Obama admin was not above using FISA for political reasons.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 03:10 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Which part is a crisis? We all said Trump would be an enormous disaster. As usual, we were right.
as usual, eh?
like this for example?

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Your King is a train wreck and is going to lose in a landslide. Deal with it.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/elect...l#post45670320

lmao!
 
Old 03-04-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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And you do not see the insanity of a President of the United States rambling wildly on Twitter, going from unfounded serious accusations against Obama to tweeting about a reality show? You do not see how utterly weird that is?
Very weird indeed. Lol.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 03:23 PM
 
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Nothing from FISA court is valid.


United States Code: Title 50 Chapter 36
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/chapter-36

The law of the land. These are federal judges appointed by the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

The courts were put in place to protect the population from abuse.

This legislation was enacted specifically in response to abuses by a recent Republican president in using surveillance services to spy on the US citizenry for political purposes.
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