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Old 03-07-2017, 03:01 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 17 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Actually, both of them were correct, unless you decide to ignore the FACT that there is an actual definition of what an immigrant is and that the slaves brought to the US and remained fit that definition.

In other words, some people are so disconnected from logic that they believe definitions are subjective and pretty much meaningless.
Again, do you tell a rape victim that she had sex ? Because the definition of sex doesnt designate whether it is voluntary or not either.

 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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Again, do you tell a rape victim that she had sex ? Because the definition of sex doesnt designate whether it is voluntary or not either.
Do you say all Muslims are terrorists? Because people on this board lump all white folks together when talking about slavery when a very small percentage of us are descended from people who actually ever saw a slave much less owned one.

It was a small, exclusive club.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:04 PM
 
Location: At the Lake (in Texas)
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im·mi·grant
noun
a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.

The definitions doesn't say anything about voluntary or involuntary.
Knowledge vs. Wisdom:

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting tomatoes in a fruit salad. - Miles Kingston

Apparently the intellectual Dr. Carson has a lot of one and is lacking in the other. Sure, the slaves might be technically called "immigrants" to make his questionable point, but the stupidity of using that is abhorrent and offensive. Just like the rest of the Trump Brigade. Disgusting.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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SLAVE. This is not the topic to try and justify Ben Carson's attempt and downplaying slavery and its effects afterwards.
Is it the thread to downplay Obama's attempt and downplaying slavery and its effects afterwards? Please enlighten us 8won6. Obama has no history of slavery in his family. If it was appalling for Carson to say, you must be beyond mortified that Obama said the same thing.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:06 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 17 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Do you say all Muslims are terrorists? Because people on this board lump all white folks together when talking about slavery when a very small percentage of us are descended from people who actually ever saw a slave much less owned one.

It was a small, exclusive club.
Your comment doesnt make sense, at least in response to me. I made no mention of white people or lumping them together.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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BTW, NO ONE cares about you being offended. No one. Nada.

The Liberals act like they care? They don't care either. They are just using you.

Also, so many white people walking around have the blood of slaves in them. Hebrew slaves, Roman slaves, African slaves.

Where do you draw the line on your crying fits about the distant past? On your death bed someday will you wish you would have had more time to spread the meaningless guilt around to people who don't care?
Give it a rest. We do what we want. Get used to it.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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Oh my, Obama is just as dumb as Carson.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N-ii9U...n6NtIDr7SJCQFA
"it certainly wasn't easy for those of African heritage who had not come here voluntarily"...even yall little attempt Obama clarifies it before he goes into his point. He clearly making a distinction between immigrants and slaves. Ben Carson was talking as if slaves came here looking for a better life.


At the end of the day, I'm struggling to understand why you are so pressed to proved Ben Carson right? Why do you care so much that slaves are lumped in with immigrants? You are fighting pretty hard here for this topic. Why?
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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Because the definition of sex doesnt designate whether it is voluntary or not either.
Rape is a sex crime. So you own point proves you wrong.

Same for immigrant. Slaves brought here from other points were indeed immigrants.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:11 PM
 
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I'm struggling to understand why you are so pressed to proved Ben Carson right?
I'm struggling to understand why you are so pressed to prove Ben Carson wrong.

Like Obama, both correctly said that slaves brought here were immigrants.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:11 PM
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It's no surprise that went over your head.

I like calling a spade a spade
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