Here It Is! Speaker Ryan's and GOP's "Repeal & Replace" ACA Bill (healthcare, premium)

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state borders.

there is no current rule preventing cross state border insurance sales, Trump is lying pretending otherwise. To change this would require the federal government overrule state laws and force states to accept insurers that don't meet current standards.

Sick Pools

Are part of Trumpcare. You get a chronic illness, you get thrown into the very high cost sick pool, where you end up going broke trying to pay the ultra high premiums. Then you end up dropping coverage and then we are back to bankrupt sick people losing their homes.

Free Market healthcare insurance. Not one single free market healthcare system in the entire world, because it does not work , yet Ryan and Trump are trying to push us there.


Uninsured

uninsured families will sky rocket again. starting at about 14 Million MORE people losing coverage rising to 24 over the next ten years.


Massive Tax cuts

that is where the money is going, massive tax breaks for the well off, those who are already doing good will do better. This includes a 500k tax break for wealthy fat cat CEOs! why well lets be honest throwing money at CEOs to keep them quiet will help this bill get through. it is s straight up bribe.


Frankly it is no wonder that TRUMP , RYAN et want to jam this bill through as fast as they can. Ryan will simply keep lying and and keep saying "access" because it is the only good sounding thing he can come up with.

24 million losing coverage means a lot of new democratic voters , and their families and their friends.

Thanks GOP and trumpers, you voted for a team that is stripping away the structures that your own families. Hope you don't fall into a sick pool and end up losing your life savings paying massive premiums because Ryan is rolling back the law that stopped insurers from pooling.

worth noting nobody else in the world does this. There are dozens of great countries with great healthcare, but Trump and Ryan want to make sure we will never be one.

[biggunsmallbrains]

Math lives matter!

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by vacoder

CBO report: 14 million fewer insured by 2018 under GOP health care law - CNNPolitics.com

not that I am an actuary or anything like that..

but how do they figure 14 million less insured, when Obama care only insured about 2 million

are they saying the 12 million new Medicaid enrollees will lose Medicaid??

[petch751]

Originally Posted by vacoder

GOP will now defund CBO.

And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass…

lack-of-transparency-was-key-because-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-would-have-killed-obamacare/

You see, he's saying that people were too stupid and that's how it passed. He didn't count on there being enough smart people that would understand that it would fail..

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by man4857

So your smart solution is to drop people off of insurance completely? Stupid solution.

SINGLE PAYER is the solution. Outlaw all the damn insurance companies squeezing everyone, getting richer at everyone else's expense.

you the taxpayer cant afford singlepayer

[petch751]

Originally Posted by man4857

So your smart solution is to drop people off of insurance completely? Stupid solution.

SINGLE PAYER is the solution. Outlaw all the damn insurance companies squeezing everyone, getting richer at everyone else's expense.

And not once do you give a damn about people being forced to pay sky high unafordable premiums. Do you really think they will, or can, continue to pay them? That's where the crash and burn comes in. If people can't afford it, they can't afford it no matter what you think.

Think past your nose man4857

[man4857]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

you the taxpayer cant afford singlepayer

Lies.

Somehow every single other industrialized country that's not even as rich nor economically as powerful as us can do it but you're claiming we can't?

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by vacoder

CBO report: 14 million fewer insured by 2018 under GOP health care law - CNNPolitics.com

And most likely the vast majority of them could not afford the deductibles making the insurance useless.

[man4857]

Originally Posted by petch751

And not once do you give a damn about people being forced to pay sky high unafordable premiums. Do you really think they will, or can for that matter, continue to pay them?

Think past your nose man4857

Insurance companies sets the premiums and deductibles to make a profit. You think they will willingly take a loss? They will jack it up as high as possible to please their shareholders.

[ringwise]

Originally Posted by JAMS14

You start off by saying the fact that people can't afford healthcare is something that needs to be addressed, and then end with people must pay for emergency services even if they can't afford it. So basically you are saying the way to address the problem of people who can't afford healthcare is to deny them healthcare if they can't pay for it.

Which Paul Ryan would probably agree with.

Not quite. I'm saying that the way to address the problem of people NOT PAYING for healthcare is to deny them healthcare if they can't pay for it.

Are there truly need people out there that can't afford healthcare no matter what? Of course there are, and those people should have every opportunity to get that healthcare. But the 20-something that has decided that a nice car, partying, tattoos and fancy clothes are a bigger priority than an accident or fluke disease that might befall them, get denied healthcare if they can't pay for it. Because they can, they just haven't.