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I guess Trumps promise that everyone will be covered will be the lie of the year, even decade. There has been a tsunami of lies, but they'll have to pick the biggest one, and that could be it.
They took ACA, and instead of repealing it, or making it better, they made it worse.
Excellent presentation this morning that compares ACA to the current proposal - around 1 minute in there is a chart based on the Kaiser Foundation analysis. They are cutting spending for low income (under $26,000) and increasing tax cuts for those above that amount for a deficit reduction of over $300B.
Because owning a car and having access to healthcare isn't the same.
So?
Having access to healthcare should be my choice, not a government mandate.
Also, simply having insurance does not guarantee access.
If your premiums and deductibles are so high that you can't afford to actually use the insurance that you're paying for, then it's useless because all you're doing at that point is paying premiums to subsidize others.
So....what else are you OK with the government telling you that you must purchase whether you want to or not and whether you can actually use it or not?
Because, regardless of what the SC ruled, forcing someone to buy a product that they don't want simply because they exist is unconstitutional AF.
Bottom line. Overwhelming majority of people pay for their health insurance through their job okay...
Under Trump's plan... if costs keep going up for American workers who pay for insurance .. Trump will not get re-elected. It all rides on healthcare costs. If healthcare costs go up ... Trump is done. 2020 will be all liberals in office.
Governing is tough. All the libs need to do is sell RINOcare for worse than it is, like GOP did with ACA, and they will win seats starting in 2018, and by 2020 they'll be repealing this thing.
Unfortunately, the nation as whole gets screwed by all this back and forth nonsense where the government creates and repeals laws just to tickle the ears of their loyalists.
Obama wanted health insurance for all. He wanted a single payer system which republicans were absolutely against. On the campaign trail Trump said he had a better plan where everyone would have insurance. The only way this would happen is a single payer system. This is not the republicans plan at all
Can someone at least do the math on how much UHC would cost per person as opposed to what we pay now for the private system? I have never seen a neutral study where someone does the math.
You understand the lie going around the media (24 Million would lose insurance) they voluntarily would lose it...media leaves the voluntarily out.... Most of them are eligible for Medicaid anyway, so they're good. The poor ones would get tremendous tax breaks.
That sounds very socialist. Why is it s good plan to let them ride on the backs of tax paying citizens? I can pay for my insurance, but why do I have to pay for yours too?
Having access to healthcare should be my choice, not a government mandate.
Also, simply having insurance does not guarantee access.
If your premiums and deductibles are so high that you can't afford to actually use the insurance that you're paying for, then it's useless because all you're doing at that point is paying premiums to subsidize others.
So....what else are you OK with the government telling you that you must purchase whether you want to or not and whether you can actually use it or not?
Because, regardless of what the SC ruled, forcing someone to buy a product that they don't want simply because they exist is unconstitutional AF.
I don't want to pay for the bridges you cross on a daily basis. I may never use them and if for some reason I have to I'll just find an alternative route.
How do you plan on paying for bridges on your own?
Yea, yea, yea... Obamacare is awesome. I'm so happy I have never gotten a penny from the government my whole life, yet my insurance went up 40 percent last 5 years. That was awesome.
Mine did not. Before ACA, the price of health care went up 100% every 7 years. That was awesome.
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