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Old 03-07-2017, 06:45 AM
 
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Debate? Why? I say RAM IT THROUGH just like Democrats did!
If you hated Obamacare, I don't see how you can like the new proposal either. The new plan really isn't better. It's pretty similar to Obamacare. I hope that it doesn't pass. We need a fix but this is not it.

 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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WOW, can't see what happens here on CD when a plan is ACTUALLY APPROVED!
 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:49 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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"Our legislation transfers power from Washington back to the states," said House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Kevin Brady, in a statement. "We dismantle Obamacare's damaging taxes and mandates so states can deliver quality affordable options."

As it should be. The States need to come up with their own systems of universal coverage, and leave the federal government out of it.


Is the Fed Gov "out of it" with this plan? Certainly doesn't sound like it...
 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:50 AM
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No matter what Obama still gets the last laugh. Nobody ever said repeal ACA and go back to the way things were before. The idea that America has to join the rest of the civilized world and provide healthcare for its citizens is going to be Obama's legacy. Read'em and weep.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Sure sounds like they would only cancel the parts which fund it, while keeping ACA itself. The question arises, who will pay for it going forward.....

Financially irresponsible.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Is the Fed Gov "out of it" with this plan? Certainly doesn't sound like it...
A tax credit is in fact a taxpayer subsidy.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:55 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Debate? Why? I say RAM IT THROUGH just like Democrats did!


Be careful what you wish for. With the details of this plan that are being talked about, the CBO is likely to have some very bad news for you if you think this is going to lower premiums.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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This bill really sticks it to older (over 50 especially) less healthy Americans. Their subsidies are cut significantly while their premiums soar.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If the people who opt out of having health insurance don't have to pay a penalty while still getting a subsidy, then please help me understand how this GOP plan is not more socialist than ACA itself.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 07:03 AM
 
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No matter what Obama still gets the last laugh. Nobody ever said repeal ACA and go back to the way things were before. The idea that America has to join the rest of the civilized world and provide healthcare for its citizens is going to be Obama's legacy. Read'em and weep.
That he did not do that will be his legacy.
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