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I was thinking the same thing, they want them to vote on this tomorrow but they don't know what it costs or how many people may lose health insurance, how can they possibly expect a vote.
There several GOP senators that sent a letter indicating their disapproval because their constituents would lose coverage, then there is the Freedom Caucus that wants a clean repeal and then a replace whatever sense that makes.
IMO it won't pass. The Freedom Caucus/Tea Party types hate it becuase they hate everything that involves spending money (unless it's to bomb or deport Brown people or build a wall to keep them out), the moderate Republicans hate it because many of them are on thin ice and represent relatively moderate/swing districts so they are vulnerable to a Democrat challenger, the Democrats all hate it so there goes the strategy of using Democrat votes to cancel out the Freedom Caucus. This will die in committee in it's present form.
BTW: I see you live on Long Island as well. Who is your congressperson? King? Zeldin? Rice? I am in King's district.
Fact is that people can be doing more to help themselves. We need the government to fix (hopefully by getting less involved) the pricing problems and we need people to be more accountable for making smart financial decisions. Its a shared responsibility at this point. Just relying on the government or anyone else to solve your problems is never the answer. You have to be willing to make sacrafices and do what you can to improve your own situation...thats just reality, its not a talking point. The government doesn't care about me or you until a few months before election cycles.
Quantify a "large or sufficient amount" and stop being intentionally dense.
I've never advocated for abandoning personal responsibility, never claimed people couldn't/shouldn't make better financial decisions and never wanted .gov to "solve my problems".
The cell phone bit is just a poor analogy, period.
Don't be obtuse. My last phone, the LG G4 had an MSRP of ~$600, I paid $200 because I was "due for a new phone" on my plan. The VAST majority of these devices are purchased that way or via an insurance claim for replacement. Yes, yes, I understand that the cost difference between MSRP and what your upgrade cost is gets offset by your monthly contract dues.
The amount of people paying MSRP for phones is very, very small.
Quantify a "large or sufficient amount" and stop being intentionally dense.
I've never advocated for abandoning personal responsibility, never claimed people couldn't/shouldn't make better financial decisions and never wanted .gov to "solve my problems".
The cell phone bit is just a poor analogy, period.
Its a moot point, neither of us has exact figures to back up either side of the argument, and thats partly due to the obfuscation of the carriers and hardware manufacturers to make it hard to know how much you are really paying for a phone with the subsidies and monthly contract prices.
Plain and simple the point is that people are prioritizing fancy technology and consumer purchases over health care costs or doing things to improve their health care situation...the cell phone is one example. Our government enables this, and the health care pricing model is broken, so between those factors nobody is off the hook in terms of blame.
Fact is that people can be doing more to help themselves.
This new bill will entourage people to do less to help themselves. The mandate to have insurance is going away, and they can still get subsidies, so people are more likely to be more dependent on the government rather than buy their own insurance.
Hypocrites can NOT make arguments that anyone cares about.
We are 20 trillion in debt and the GOPs plan is more debt but damn if this guy isn't going to make sure that he doesn't have to sacrifice.
This is the same argument I've made to those on the left. You can not have hypocrites leading the charge. The problem is, outside of maybe Paul that's all the GOP has..
Again, I don't disagree, but if Chaffetz told me that I needed to tie my shoe or I might trip, I wouldn't discount that advice.
Its a moot point, neither of us has exact figures to back up either side of the argument, and thats partly due to the obfuscation of the carriers and hardware manufacturers to make it hard to know how much you are really paying for a phone with the subsidies and monthly contract prices.
Fair.
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Originally Posted by t206
Plain and simple the point is that people are prioritizing fancy technology and consumer purchases over health care costs or doing things to improve their health care situation...the cell phone is one example. Our government enables this, and the health care pricing model is broken, so between those factors nobody is off the hook in terms of blame.
This is not new behavior for the American people, however. To act like it is would be disingenuous.
Enact serious tort reform and allow interstate competition and those two things would go a long way to reducing costs for the healthcare consumer.
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