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View Poll Results: Take them down or leave them up?
Take them down. They're offensive. 133 36.14%
Leave them up. It's history. 235 63.86%
Voters: 368. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:51 AM
 
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Take them down, period.
Perhaps take them down & put in a museum. Teach the Constitution of the Confederate States of America alongside the Constitution of the United States of America to demonstrate how the CSA intended to be different from the USA:

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...We can get a good glimpse into the founding principles of the Confederacy by taking an in-depth look at the Confederate constitution, which was approved, and came into use by the rebel states on March 11, 1861. The document is largely a word-for-word copy of the United States constitution, but with several key changes. The changes offer the clearest window of insight into how precisely the CSA intended to be different from the USA, and why. ...
Constitution of the Confederate States of America- what was changed?
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Old 03-07-2017, 06:54 AM
 
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Good perspective. We cannot change history. However, we can decide who should and shouldn't be honored. Confederate soldiers should NEVER be honored, period.
And it's up to people like YOU and other PC snowflakes to decide who should and shouldn't be honored?
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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And it's up to people like YOU and other PC snowflakes to decide who should and shouldn't be honored?
Call me PC all you want. I don't care. It is a fact that the desire to keep and expand slavery was a major reason for the desire to secede. That is not honorable. It is also a fact that the right to keep slavery was spelled out in the Confederate Constitution. I will decide that honoring Confederate soldiers is a bad idea because of history. Period.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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Perhaps take them down & put in a museum. Teach the Constitution of the Confederate States of America alongside the Constitution of the United States of America to demonstrate how the CSA intended to be different from the USA:



Constitution of the Confederate States of America- what was changed?
Indeed. Teach people where things went wrong as a nation. Teach them "this is what was wrong with the nation in those days".
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:10 AM
 
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The people of NOLA should vote on it. It's their home, they should decide.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:11 AM
 
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Call me PC all you want. I don't care. It is a fact that the desire to keep and expand slavery was a major reason for the desire to secede. That is not honorable. It is also a fact that the right to keep slavery was spelled out in the Confederate Constitution. I will decide that honoring Confederate soldiers is a bad idea because of history. Period.
I'm with you Green, although it's worth noting the Lost Cause 'historians' sought to be way more PC than you or anyone in the present day can ever hope to be.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:31 AM
 
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Call me PC all you want. I don't care. It is a fact that the desire to keep and expand slavery was a major reason for the desire to secede. That is not honorable. It is also a fact that the right to keep slavery was spelled out in the Confederate Constitution. I will decide that honoring Confederate soldiers is a bad idea because of history. Period.
At the time of secession Slavey was also a part of the US Constitution too. So your point fails.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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No he'll last. But it will be said he followed the rules and was an orderly leader in a sea of chaos.

I don't know...he was a slaveowner. He was also wealthy (that means he stole from poor people, you know). He was also a member of many "white men only" organizations: Constitutional Congress, U.S. Army, Masons, etc. He should have refused to be a part of such racist, mysogynist organizations. He also was a member of the military and we all know they are bad people who use guns to kill innocent people.

So you see, there is a lot for liberal revisionists to work on.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:36 AM
 
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Good. There should be no statues honoring traitors in our public squares. This, like the removal of the Confederate flag flying over our federal and state government buildings, is long overdue.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:36 AM
Status: "embarrASSed for the stain in Minnesota" (set 8 days ago)
 
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The Democrap Party should be required to apologize to everyone for their support of slavery, racism, and violence from inception till today.
ok, sorry.


and...those that can't look at statues are condemned to repeat bad history
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