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View Poll Results: Take them down or leave them up?
Take them down. They're offensive. 114 34.76%
Leave them up. It's history. 214 65.24%
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Good, take them all down. They should never have gotten up in the first place. They belong in a Civil War museum at best, not on display out in public.
Agreed. Put them in a museum where people who want to see them can do so, and everyone else does not have to.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:48 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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New Orleans Confederate monuments can come down, court rules | NOLA.com

The lee statue has been up since 1884. What are your thoughts?
It's only going to ramp-up the conflict between Blacks and Whites. Is that what the OP wants?
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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I'm with you Green, although it's worth noting the Lost Cause 'historians' sought to be way more PC than you or anyone in the present day can ever hope to be.
Yep. Talk about hypocrisy. Same persons calling us "politically correct" for calling the Confederate cause a lost cause will be the same persons lying and claiming it wasn't about slavery, or saying "slavery wasn't so bad for Blacks. It was better than being free up north". Personally, I'd rather be dead than be a slave in the Old South.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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At the time of secession Slavey was also a part of the US Constitution too. So your point fails.
And in 1864, Congress passed the 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery. Here is the difference. While the USA had long tolerated slavery where it existed, the CSA was willing to wage a war when southerners felt that institution was in danger. CSA never abolished slavery. So don't come at me with that.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thumbs up The confederate statues in NOLA are coming down

Good!

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Old 03-07-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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Good!

I personally don't get honoring Confederate soldiers. I figured it was common sense not to honor such a cause.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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I don't know...he was a slaveowner. He was also wealthy (that means he stole from poor people, you know). He was also a member of many "white men only" organizations: Constitutional Congress, U.S. Army, Masons, etc. He should have refused to be a part of such racist, mysogynist organizations. He also was a member of the military and we all know they are bad people who use guns to kill innocent people.

So you see, there is a lot for liberal revisionists to work on.
Liberal or conservative doesn't matter. All those old guys had something we don't - freedom. And freedom is re-viled by where the world is headed. Washington can't be erased because he's the father God of the nation. However, as with the Bible, God changes.

Washington will be a rule follower, not a patriot. A mild mannered gentlemen who valued order. A corporate type man who obeyed the law. That is what is required to enforce the Federal state knocking at our door.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:46 AM
 
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Liberal or conservative doesn't matter. All those old guys had something we don't - freedom. And freedom is re-viled by where the world is headed. Washington can't be erased because he's the father God of the nation. However, as with the Bible, God changes.

Washington will be a rule follower, not a patriot. A mild mannered gentlemen who valued order. A corporate type man who obeyed the law. That is what is required to enforce the Federal state knocking at our door.
Show me how I don't have freedom.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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Show me how I don't have freedom.
Look to whatever your favorite bastion of progressive expression, mine for example is California. You'll find your freedom alive and well there so long as you are prepared to server your master - the elite and state.

There was some band there who sang about this in the late 80's. Metalli- something.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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And in 1864, Congress passed the 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery. Here is the difference. While the USA had long tolerated slavery where it existed, the CSA was willing to wage a war when southerners felt that institution was in danger. CSA never abolished slavery. So don't come at me with that.
This was 5 years after the Confederacy was founded. So your point still fails.
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