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Old 03-07-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
It's hard to argue with that statement. Obama's administration has been one continuous comedy of errors, corruption and scandal. Fast and Furious. O-care rollout debacle. "It was about a video". Using IRS to attack political opponents. Lerner's lost emails. Hillary's "wiped" server". Wiretapping reporters. Wiretapping foreign leaders. Trading terrorists for a deserter. Now, illegal wiretapping of the DNCs political opponent. No doubt more corrupt than Nixon, who only had ONE scandal to destroy his presidency.

Biggest difference? Nixon was considerably smarter than Obama. He stepped down, selected his successor-who in turn issued a pre-meditated presidential pardon for Nixon. Obama...wasn't that bright. He was so convinced that Clinton would be his successor that he made no provisions for a "get out of jail free" card.

So, yes....more incompetent than Carter....
Don't forget that Obama prosecuted more whistleblowers that all the previous presidents combined.

The dems are so scared by Obamagate that they are still trying to deny the wiretapping.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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At least with Obama we knew beforehand that he was going to be corrupt/incompetent. Nixon and Carter had higher expectations.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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I don't think Carter was that incompetent, but his own party did turn on him. If it had not been for Ted Kennedy, I think Carter might have beaten Reagan in 1980.

It is pretty clear however that Obama is about as corrupt as they have come. I thought the Bush administration via Dr. Strangelove was underhanded, but less than 2 months out of office and the revelations starting to come out about Obama should disturb any American.
What revelation is that exactly ? That the FBI intercepted communications between Trump tower and a Russian bank because they were keeping tabs on Russians in the US (i.e. their job) and so pulled the string ?

Face it - your boy is never getting out from under his Black Russian Cloud.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
It's hard to argue with that statement. Obama's administration has been one continuous comedy of errors, corruption and scandal. Fast and Furious. O-care rollout debacle. "It was about a video". Using IRS to attack political opponents. Lerner's lost emails. Hillary's "wiped" server". Wiretapping reporters. Wiretapping foreign leaders. Trading terrorists for a deserter. Now, illegal wiretapping of the DNCs political opponent. No doubt more corrupt than Nixon, who only had ONE scandal to destroy his presidency.

Biggest difference? Nixon was considerably smarter than Obama. He stepped down, selected his successor-who in turn issued a pre-meditated presidential pardon for Nixon. Obama...wasn't that bright. He was so convinced that Clinton would be his successor that he made no provisions for a "get out of jail free" card.

So, yes....more incompetent than Carter....
worth noting we are seeing a big increase in opinion posts that provide nothing but vague accusations on topics done to death. Much of what OP is ranting about has been dealt with by the courts, FBI etc. they found it all to be fake BS and the OP KNOWS this.

this is just a very weak attempt to divert away from TRUMPS failures, his lies, he stupidity.

and what is more I can back my claim up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/u...cy-theory.html


trump has provided nothing to back this up.

Spicer was lying today to cover up for trump and started pretending TRump was really kind of talking about maybes....ifs etc..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.caa79c8a889a


see. so your post, is unproven old junk that has been completely rejected by courts etc.

mine is current and catches your LORD TRUMP, lying his damn pants off on twitter, and making the executive branch clean up after him like he is a baby without its diaper...
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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What revelation is that exactly ? That the FBI intercepted communications between Trump tower and a Russian bank because they were keeping tabs on Russians in the US (i.e. their job) and so pulled the string ?
So you admit that the Obama administration was using the NSA to spying on the Trump campaign.

That's what everyone is saying, the Obama administration was targeting a political opponent.

Finally, a dem that is will to admit that Obamagate is a very serious scandal.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
It's hard to argue with that statement. Obama's administration has been one continuous comedy of errors, corruption and scandal. Fast and Furious. O-care rollout debacle. "It was about a video". Using IRS to attack political opponents. Lerner's lost emails. Hillary's "wiped" server". Wiretapping reporters. Wiretapping foreign leaders. Trading terrorists for a deserter. Now, illegal wiretapping of the DNCs political opponent. No doubt more corrupt than Nixon, who only had ONE scandal to destroy his presidency.

Biggest difference? Nixon was considerably smarter than Obama. He stepped down, selected his successor-who in turn issued a pre-meditated presidential pardon for Nixon. Obama...wasn't that bright. He was so convinced that Clinton would be his successor that he made no provisions for a "get out of jail free" card.

So, yes....more incompetent than Carter....
And his press secretary, Jay Carney, quit after caving to the pressure of having to lie so much.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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At least with Obama we knew beforehand that he was going to be corrupt/incompetent. Nixon and Carter had higher expectations.
fake

your comment is not factual wrong and we can prove it.

oh dear even FOX ran this...

Obama: I'm the 1st Modern President Without a Major Scandal | Fox News Insider

Obama won twice, was very popular , still more pop than trump and Obama had no major scandals, and no amount of lying, whining or bs will change that.
TODATE not one court has convicted him of anything, and is the STANDARD. not dark gov bs, not but some guy on the internet, but courts of law.

COURTS DECIDE THE STANDARD NOT YOU.
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Old 03-07-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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So you admit that the Obama administration was using the NSA to spying on the Trump campaign.

That's what everyone is saying, the Obama administration was targeting a political opponent.

Finally, a dem that is will to admit that Obamagate is a very serious scandal.
NOBODY said that, except you. NSA is not FBI and FBI is NOT Obama. see how this works...
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Old 03-07-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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At least with Obama we knew beforehand that he was going to be corrupt/incompetent. .
Please proof to the false accusations"
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Old 03-07-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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Obama will go down in history as one of the most corrupt politicians ever.
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