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If you have a question of challenge regarding older people getting assistance, there is no need to even engage you.
"Old people" have had their entire working life to accumulate their wealth. Why should we bail them out if they spent it all and did not save any for their later years??
"Old people" have had their entire working life to accumulate their wealth. Why should we bail them out if they spent it all and did not save any for their later years??
It's not bailing them out if they have been paying into it their entire lives.
There was a time we all didn't know the difference. Though most people that don't know enough to know the difference, usually don't go starting internet discussions about it.
I remember first learning about it in high school, or maybe it was middle school. I still remember the mnemonic "Care for the elderly, aid for the poor".
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and the important one ... "Mercedes for the doctor!"
Four Mercedes for the doctor: A sports car, a sedan, an SUV and a pickup truck.
"Old people" have had their entire working life to accumulate their wealth. Why should we bail them out if they spent it all and did not save any for their later years??
Job loss? Happens to lots of people (me included).
Nope. These are vastly different programs, and argument for one doesn't apply to the other. Then again, since you never address the actual topic, I can see why you might post this.
"Old people" have had their entire working life to accumulate their wealth. Why should we bail them out if they spent it all and did not save any for their later years??
Lots of them are supporting their worthless kids and grand kids.
You confuse Medicaid with Medicare. OP asked about Medicaid.
Medicare = Earned benefit paid for by workers.
Medicaid = Medical welfare given to those who have not worked, but paid for by workers.
Not entirely accurate about Medicaid - while Medicaid helps with medical support for poor people, it is not accurate to say they have never worked. Many of them worked, and did not earn enough, or were under employed as their conditions worsened, and qualify for Medicaid. Many of them were children when their disability appeared, and never had the opportunity to work, but they would only receive Medicaid if their parents did not earn over a limit. When they became adults, and still couldn't work, yes, they were "those who have not worked".
In addition, several states have expanded Medicaid as the basis for their implementation of obamacare. Yeah, I know, what a bummer. Sooooo happy to see that go away, right?
Not entirely accurate about Medicaid - while Medicaid helps with medical support for poor people, it is not accurate to say they have never worked. Many of them worked, and did not earn enough, or were under employed as their conditions worsened, and qualify for Medicaid. Many of them were children when their disability appeared, and never had the opportunity to work, but they would only receive Medicaid if their parents did not earn over a limit. When they became adults, and still couldn't work, yes, they were "those who have not worked".
In addition, several states have expanded Medicaid as the basis for their implementation of obamacare. Yeah, I know, what a bummer. Sooooo happy to see that go away, right?
Medicare is an entitlement based upon qualifying contributions and other factors.
Medicaid is care for the indigent, disabled, and a few others (IIRC all organ transplant patients are covered by Medicaid) regardless of age and is funded from federal general revenue split 50/50 with states. The latter is subject to provisions of ACA where certain states are receiving more for those who expanded Medicaid.
Medicaid was created to fill a gap caused by those too poor and or are disabled but do not qualify yet for Medicare. This and or they never will for various reasons. For instance many refugees/those granted asylum are eligible for Medicaid. This includes those who are elderly and thus never will likely ever have enough employment quarters contributed to ever qualify for Medicare.
Those on Medicare *may* qualify for Medicaid if their income is low enough. Indeed many times family will "spend down" a senior's assets in order to get Medicaid because it pays for things that Medicare does not. https://www.agingcare.com/articles/s...aid-133289.htm
It's not bailing them out if they have been paying into it their entire lives.
Which is actually an interesting concept when you factor in what has been paid in and what has been paid out. Even when applying inflation to the dollar amounts paid in, saying that they have been paying into it ignores the fact that, based on averages, people are receiving more in benefits than they put in.
Mostly because people are living longer than before and medical costs have increased exponentially.
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Lots of them are supporting their worthless kids and grand kids.
Not to play devil's advocate on this, but if they weren't supporting worthless kids and grand kids... would that actually affect their ability to pay for medical care beyond the amount they put into Medicare?
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