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Old 03-09-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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The FBI investigated a Trump server in its Russia probe, but no charges are expected

I would suggest reading it yourselves.

Won't quote anything (except in blue italics below) but will summarize.
  • They are speaking out of frustration from the whole scenario
  • Obama wanted to expand the audience to his personnel to be a part of the data capture - which likely led to leaks
  • Russia was the main focus, not Trump
  • Trump dossier is mentioned... described as explicit, salacious, and uncorroborated
  • FISA used for further probing Russia
  • Traditional surveillance used in investigating Trump Tower servers... they concluded the computer activity in question involved no nefarious contacts, bank transactions or encrypted communications with the Russians
  • Flynn phone conversations reviewed by FBI... the FBI has not found anything that rises to criminal activity in the Flynn conversations
  • No bribes, money transfer, criminal activity
  • Obama in January amended an EO to further widen the audience that could have details of the data received though FISA
  • Trump's claims via Twitter further irritated security officials

Last edited by DRob4JC; 03-09-2017 at 01:47 PM.. Reason: correct "Twitter"
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Old 03-09-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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As expected. Gen Flynn was fired for, a) lying to the VP, b) by lying, not giving the President to respond in his way. Session's innuendo, character assassination attempt handled in a very different manner.

Just more of the months long sand box tantrum.
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Old 03-09-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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As expected. Gen Flynn was fired for, a) lying to the VP, b) by lying, not giving the President to respond in his way. Session's innuendo, character assassination attempt handled in a very different manner.

Just more of the months long sand box tantrum.

tweeter should shut down his account.
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Old 03-09-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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I loved this quote:

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“We have people spouting off who don’t know the difference between FISA surveillance and a wiretap or a counterintelligence probe versus a special prosecutor, and it has hurt our ability to get to the truth and has wrongly created the impression that intelligence officials have a political agenda,” said one source directly familiar with the drama.
Hmmm...."people"....wonder what "people" they mean?
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Old 03-09-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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Hmmm...."people"....wonder what "people" they mean?

BIG and Orange and has initials DT.
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Old 03-09-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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The FBI investigated a Trump server in its Russia probe, but no charges are expected

I would suggest reading it yourselves.

Won't quote anything (except in blue italics below) but will summarize.
  • They are speaking out of frustration from the whole scenario
  • Obama wanted to expand the audience to his personnel to be a part of the data capture - which likely led to leaks
  • Russia was the main focus, not Trump
  • Trump dossier is mentioned... described as explicit, salacious, and uncorroborated
  • FISA used for further probing Russia
  • Traditional surveillance used in investigating Trump Tower servers... they concluded the computer activity in question involved no nefarious contacts, bank transactions or encrypted communications with the Russians
  • Flynn phone conversations reviewed by FBI... the FBI has not found anything that rises to criminal activity in the Flynn conversations
  • No bribes, money transfer, criminal activity
  • Obama in January amended an EO to further widen the audience that could have details of the data received though FISA
  • Trump's claims via Twitter further irritated security officials
Other sources say Trump was the subject during the election of two investigations with surveillance, one a Fisa and the recording of the Flynn nothing burger was 100% felony.
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Old 03-09-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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Other sources say Trump was the subject during the election of two investigations with surveillance, one a Fisa and the recording of the Flynn nothing burger was 100% felony.
There has been no credible source to say that Trump or Flynn was the subject of surveillance. I realize that several right wing conspiracy site are touting that latest conspiracy, but there is not proof of that. Trump would handily have that proof today as president and be able to skewer people with it, so he's either being very nice or that evidence does not exist.

If Trump and Flynn were surveilled it was part of the target of surveillance of another government.
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Old 03-09-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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I've never heard of circa.com, but if you actually follow this stuff, these findings were all available in December...
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Old 03-09-2017, 02:05 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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tweeter should shut down his account.

They are shutting down many "right-wing" posters, with no reasons given.
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Old 03-09-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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There has been no credible source to say that Trump or Flynn was the subject of surveillance. I realize that several right wing conspiracy site are touting that latest conspiracy, but there is not proof of that. Trump would handily have that proof today as president and be able to skewer people with it, so he's either being very nice or that evidence does not exist.

If Trump and Flynn were surveilled it was part of the target of surveillance of another government.
Trump and Flynn's side of the conversations by law should have been removed from the recordings. They weren't and the classification of the data was lowered by Obama and passed throughout the government to ensure it was leaked. Obama needs to go to jail for this.
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