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Article was written in 2001 when Bush 2 was running on a platform of providing an affordable healthcare for low income earners. Health insurance premiums creased 100% between 2000-2010.
The way healthcare is managed needs to come into the 21st century. The fee for service model (with or without insurance) is an antiquated way to delivery healthcare.
Insurance just cannot be the vessel to deliver it. For-profit insurance and healthcare are diametrically opposed to each other.
Either eliminate insurance with a single payer system, or eliminate it in favor of a free market approach with some regulations. Either way insurance is THE problem.
This is coming from a very pro-capital tv host--who is also a Canadian--he very simply sums up why free market healthcare can never work.
Because someone said. He never backed it up once and neither did you or you would have added a comment on exactly why he's right. That's okay that you don't understand the issue. The problem is starting a thread and posting on it when you don't understand the issue.
Two of the biggest problems with a free market approach to health care are:
1. Free markets presume there are alternatives. If your car or car insurance is too expensive, you can buy a motorcycle, take the bus, etc. You only have one body, there is no alternative to the human body..
Incorrect, the free market gives us options. One insurance company is too high go to another. No one has a right to insurance. That's what you don't get.
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2. Profit-based health care means health care costs will ALWAYS go up. Publicly held companies must report revenue growth. Every year, their stock needs to report increased year over year earnings. So profit based health care costs will always increase because if they don't, there was no profit and the resource ceases to be available.
No they don't. All that technology yet costs are rising. Any wonder why that happens in fields where government is involved? Rhetorical that would require knowledge.
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This is why, even in a very capitalist country, health care is not an area where profits work very well and why other capitalist countries have chosen single payer when it comes to health care.
The problem is uninformed people grouping capitalism under one umbrella. It's funny that you don't understand crony capitalism since that is a big part of the problem.
hint guess who wrote the passage in Obamacare Lite about paying the penalty to the insurance companies and not government?
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If we can be honest, single-payer healthcare does not provide better health-outcomes. I'm not sure why people keep repeating this lie. And then pretending that since life-expectancy is higher Sweden, that it must be because of their healthcare system.
That is like claiming that since Japan has a higher life-expectancy than Sweden, that Japan has better healthcare.
It isn't true, stop saying it.
What bothers me about this lie, is that it is unnecessary. There is a strong case for single-payer healthcare, even if it slightly-reduces healthcare outcomes.
A single-payer healthcare system gives more people, better access. It gives people peace-of-mind. And no country who has it, ever wants to get rid of it.
If we woke up tomorrow with single-payer healthcare in America, it would never be repealed.
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This is why, even in a very capitalist country, health care is not an area where profits work very well and why other capitalist countries have chosen single payer when it comes to health care.
Profits work very well under freemarket healthcare, the problem is it won't be affordable or even available to most people. Freemarket healthcare makes as much sense as having privatized police and fire departments. Only those who can pay will have their fire put. That's literally the kind of healthcare system we have now. It's very Darwinian. You better pray you don't get sick or get into an accident. With the outrageous fees hospitals are charging for even the most basic and routine procedures, even a minor accident could bankrupt you.
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