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Old 03-14-2017, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Ariete View Post
The Swedish economy grew by 4.1% in 2015 (the migrant crisis year), and 3.3% in 2016. Unemployment has been between 6-7% the last years. Sweden had 105 homicides in 2016. Rinkeby is one of the suburbs often mentioned and where cars have burned. Less than a half mile away there's Kista, which is one of the largest ICT hubs in Northern Europe.

Just sayin'.

Sure, there are some suburbs where there are street gangs and people are aching a lot. High unemployment, poor high-school enrollment and high petty crime. There's a handful of these suburbs in Sweden, meaning that 9,9 of 10 million Swedes live in complete peace.

The fragile states index define the stability of the state by these metrics:

Social

  • Mounting demographic pressures.
  • Massive displacement of refugees, creating severe humanitarian emergencies.
  • Widespread vengeance-seeking group grievance.
  • Chronic and sustained human flight.
Economic

  • Uneven economic development along group lines.
  • Severe economic decline.
Political

  • Criminalization and/or delegitimization of the state.
  • Deterioration of public services.
  • Suspension or arbitrary application of law; widespread human rights abuses.
  • Security apparatus operating as a "state within a state".
  • Rise of factionalized elites.
  • Intervention of external political agents.
Somalia is #1, South Sudan is #2. Sweden is #171 of 178 countries.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_States_Index


If you cherrypick a couple of youtube videos with one opinion (which might be total BS), you can think that Sweden is somehow collapsing. The truth is something completely else.
Maybe Sweden should send a reporter to Liberty City in Miami (very violent) and then write an article about how bad things are in US. No need to look at US as whole, when you can just go to the worst neighborhood and pretend the whole country is like that.

All the BS about Sweden is very dishonest, and done only to defend the moron in chief who made a rookie mistake of quoting FOX for news.

 
Old 03-14-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Sharia Law Muslim 'No-Go' Zones

CLAIM: A number of localities in the United States, France, and Britain are considered Muslim “no-go zones” (operating under Sharia Law) where local laws are not applicable.

On Fox and elsewhere it’s been reported that there are 751 “no go zones” in France where non-Muslims aren’t allowed and only Sharia law is enforced. Also, Dearborn, Michigan is rumored to be
governed by Sharia law and (alternatively) is a “no go zone”

VERDICT: FALSE

There ARE no-go zones in Europe. They may not be run under Sharia law, but they are there.

Here is a list of about 750 no-go zones in France, published by the French government itself. It includes street demarcations and maps.

Atlas des Zones urbaines sensibles (Zus)
 
Old 03-14-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ariete View Post
The Swedish economy grew by 4.1% in 2015 (the migrant crisis year), and 3.3% in 2016.
Do you know how metrics of modern economies work?

First, recognize that you are quoting numbers that are arrived at through formula. These formula are a mystery to most, and you have no idea what goes into such calculations.

For instance, did you know that the very existence of increased population numbers, in spite of any actual effect on the economy (production vs. welfare), allows the government to boost their GDP number due to the fact that the increase in population somehow allows them to juke the national debt number?

This is the way that it works all over the West, and this is a primary reason for the motivation behind mass immigration. It allows them to juke the numbers in their Keynesian pyramid scheme so that the economy doesn't collapse on paper.

In other words, they can fill a modern first world nation with no-skill sub-Saharan Africans, who were likely living in stick huts one year prior, and claim an economic boost as a result. This so called economic boost, which exists on paper, is drastically different from any real effect on the ground and it certainly does not take into effect production or the myriad of negative social effects from such immigration. It merely allows them to keep their books balanced in their pyramid scheme.

So, please, save the economic sermonizing.

Moreover, no economic progress is worth the social and political cost of being dispossessed by foreigners.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Maybe Sweden should send a reporter to Liberty City in Miami (very violent) and then write an article about how bad things are in US. No need to look at US as whole, when you can just go to the worst neighborhood and pretend the whole country is like that.

All the BS about Sweden is very dishonest, and done only to defend the moron in chief who made a rookie mistake of quoting FOX for news.
They should. Things are bad here in the U.S. Almost every major coastal city has de facto no go zones. The point is that Sweden should not follow suit.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Originally Posted by Tyster View Post
There ARE no-go zones in Europe. They may not be run under Sharia law, but they are there.

Here is a list of about 750 no-go zones in France, published by the French government itself. It includes street demarcations and maps.

Atlas des Zones urbaines sensibles (Zus)
Those aren't no-go zones!

A sensitive urban zone (French: Zone urbaine sensible, ZUS) is an urban area in France defined by the authorities to be a high-priority target for city policy, taking into consideration local circumstances related to the problems of its residents.

Nearly five million people live in zones of difficulty with many problems:[1]
In January 2015, after the Charlie Hebdo shooting, several items on Fox News labeled the ZUS as "Islamic no-go zones".[6] French media agencies denied these claims.[7][8] After complaints Fox News issued an apology, saying that there was "no credible information to support the assertion there are specific areas in these countries that exclude individuals based solely on their religion."
 
Old 03-14-2017, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
Was in Europe last week. This stuff in these videos are propaganda put out by RWNJ trying to pull off a takeover politically.
Propaganda? And yet you have no facts. Maybe you've been reading too many LWNJ web sites.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Maybe it's just me, but when I go to Stockholm, I expect to see mostly Swedes and their culture.
As somebody else said, "I don't go to Stockholm to experience middle eastern culture. I can go to the middle east to see that".
 
Old 03-14-2017, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Criticism of Sweden by Trump is the real weird issue. That is not how friendly countries relate to each other.
Sweden is a sovereign country that can choose their domestic policies (which aren't Trump business). I don't recall leaders of any country publicly criticizing another, just to prove a point! Beyond being rude, its absolutely not Trump's business. (That was the norm during the Cold War between US and the Soviet Union). But Sweden is not the evil empire.
I don't recall Trump ever saying Sweden is an evil empire.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 03:32 PM
 
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Criticism of Sweden by Trump is the real weird issue. That is not how friendly countries relate to each other.
Sweden is a sovereign country that can choose their domestic policies (which aren't Trump business). I don't recall leaders of any country publicly criticizing another, just to prove a point! Beyond being rude, its absolutely not Trump's business. (That was the norm during the Cold War between US and the Soviet Union). But Sweden is not the evil empire.
It's just Trump being Trump - he does the same thing with people and things he dislikes in the US - since he doesn't seem to realize (or care) that in his position as President this many be construed as an insult - the country in question (Sweden) reacts.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Finland
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If you like youtube videos, here's a 25 min episode about the police in Sweden, Finland and Norway. A LAPD captain goes for a visit and gets quite the culture shock.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbM9uCxEJDM
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