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With the whole wikileaks thing I thought about something: Say hypothetically EVERYTHING the CIA has done and is involved in was fully out there. There was nothing they did or would do that wasn't fully open and transparent, would it really put more Americans in danger? Just like the stupid TSA which has done nothing to protect Americans I really don't believe it. The CIA and their ilk has no reason to exist other than to spy on people for no reason and they have never done anything to help Americans, they sure did a great job at stopping 9/11 didn't they?
I think if one thing is clear, a terrorist attack will happen whether the CIA exists or not.
The CIA is easily the most incompetent intelligence service on Earth. Nevermind that they got outsmarted consistently by the KGB, but even Castro's G2 was more effective. Pathetic...especially with their almost unlimited (and secret) budget.
Exposing CIA secrets wouldn't hurt this country one bit. In fact, it would make no difference whether or not we even had a CIA.
About the only thing they've ever been good at is overthrowing democratically elected governments.
So yes. They did. any other ignorance I should help resolve?
Seriously, the CIA does a lot, and 95% of the time they provide excellent intelligence. Something presidents have failed to heed in the past. Course our current one doesn't even read their briefings.
With the whole wikileaks thing I thought about something: Say hypothetically EVERYTHING the CIA has done and is involved in was fully out there. There was nothing they did or would do that wasn't fully open and transparent, would it really put more Americans in danger? Just like the stupid TSA which has done nothing to protect Americans I really don't believe it. The CIA and their ilk has no reason to exist other than to spy on people for no reason and they have never done anything to help Americans, they sure did a great job at stopping 9/11 didn't they?
I think if one thing is clear, a terrorist attack will happen whether the CIA exists or not.
The Bush administration ignored months of CIA briefings warning of a pending attack.
It wasn't just the Aug. 6th briefing that Bush eventually released, there were months of such briefings. Had the Bush administration not ignored these warnings but put everyone on high alert from TSA on, the dots might have been connected. There were several reports of co-conspirators apprehended at airports, flight school students who were uninterested in landing procedures...
So yes. They did. any other ignorance I should help resolve?
Seriously, the CIA does a lot, and 95% of the time they provide excellent intelligence. Something presidents have failed to heed in the past. Course our current one doesn't even read their briefings.
There were lots of people warning about the dangers of invading Iraq, that's when Rice came out with her mushroom cloud nonsense and Powell gave his testimony that he later regretted.
Bush administration even outed an undercover CIA operative working on a nuclear nonproliferation team because her ambassador husband found no evidence that Iraq had recently purchased yellowcake uranium from Nigeria.
The CIA needs to stay out of other nations' internal affairs. That's their business, not ours.
But it is nonsense to say we don't need the intelligence they gather.
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