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Their submarine fleet is joke, outside of their own waters.
Their main sea going boats are diesel electrics, with soviet design, pirated from the Germans at the end of WWII. They were formidable submarines....... in 1950.......
They have one nuclear powered, but, technologically backward sub that many look upon as more of an ecological threat than a military one. A nuclear fueled accident looking for a place to happen.
The NK navy might be a problem, regionally, and for a short time. The US fleet could put 'em away in a fortnight.
But overall, primarily, they are China's, and to a lesser extent South Korea's monster. Let them put NK back into their box.
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well, that is really the bottom line.
Nobody is arguing that America will win, but why bother?
losing one life is a waste.
Imagine all these refugees. Oh, My God. Who wants to deal with it?
It pisses me off when people are arguing "oh, we are going to win." You are going to win alright? at what cost? For what? What is the purpose of fighting the North Korea? What do you have to gain?
"Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson ruled out on Friday opening any negotiation with North Korea to freeze its nuclear and missile programs and said for the first time that the Trump administration might be forced to take pre-emptive action “if they elevate the threat of their weapons program” to an unacceptable level.
Given Tillerson's recent comments, would you support war with N. Korea and if so why or why not? I'm torn on this because I know that while N. Korea needs to be stopped, China will get in on the action...
A preemptive war? No.
A responsive one where North Korea over plays it's hand and does something that constitutes an act of war?
All day long.
BUT......make it swift and decisive, no ***** footing (that got edited? REALLY? ) around with ridiculous rules of engagement like we did in the ME under Bush/ Obama.
If you're going to fight a war.....fight to win quickly and decisively.
No, sir!
Nobody who is sane wants to uncork that bottle.
Exactly. If North Korea attacked us, we would have little choice but to retaliate, but I would sure hate for the United States to be remembered (if indeed, there was anyone left to remember at all), as the country whose first strike ushered in global nuclear annihilation.
I voted for undecided because it depends on the circumstances. If North Korea were to attack South Korea? Then I would support military action to eliminate the threat. Are we unilaterally starting a war to boost Trump's poll numbers (ala "Wag the Dog")? Then heck no. We've been involved in enough pointless wars, American boys and girls should not have to come home in boxes to feed the Orange Buffoon's ego.
The context is that North Korea simply continues to work its nuclear program as it is now, possibly attaining the capability of Pakistan, dangerous to Japan and South Korea.
The context is that North Korea simply continues to work its nuclear program as it is now, possibly attaining the capability of Pakistan, dangerous to Japan and South Korea.
I can't claim to know all the ins and outs of what agreements were in place RE:Korea and just what our responsibilities actually were but I'd guess we still could have lived up to our responsibilities and gotten considerably less involved and I couldn't agree more about Vietnam. I've been looking for some reason Vietnam made sense for 35+ years now and have yet to find any. Now waiting for my turn to borrow H R McMaster's Dereliction of Duty from my local library to see his perspective on that horrid war.
It's actions like Korea and Vietnam that make me believe we need a Constitutional Amendment limiting the length of time a POTUS can deploy combat troops anywhere without a formal declaration of war being issued by Congress. I think we go off to war far too easily and the procedure needs to be changed.
That's called the War Powers Act, which was passed in 1973. Congress already has the power to prevent the president from going to war. It's called "no mo' money."
Attempts to create a Constitutional Amendment are going to fail on the question of "What is a war?"
The reason Vietnam was a failure is because the military actions were controlled by the politicians who bowed down to the protester pressure leave the military handcuffed fighting a war they could not win.
More because there was not a valid nation of South Vietnam with a valid government that even their own citizens strongly supported...rather like Afghanistan.
South Korea--particularly today--is a very much different proposition.
Probably location and own personal interest. NK offers a buffer from the US.
That's the only reason. Kim Jong Un has actually been busy gnawing apart any other ties between the DPRK and China, such as executing the DPRK's primary contact with the Chinese under the accusation of "favoring them over us." I believe Kim has yet even to meet with any high Chinese officials.
The Chinese gov't is a self-serving, sneaky bunch. That country is a greater threat to America than we give them credit for. Look what they are doing in the South China sea, to Taiwan and don't forget how much of our debt they have.
They are building up their power and preparing to supersede America as the global powerhouse.
To answer your question, they are protecting the N. Koreans because they don't refugees pouring into into their country nor do they want the joint force of South Koreans/Americans next door when we remove Little Kim from power... true evil is silent but deadly.
Didn't it only end in an armistice?
Still hasn't officially ended.
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