Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I have to believe there are facts, beliefs, and opinions. Facts are provable and remain facts even if taken out of context. Opinions and beliefs not so much.
The phrase doesn't say "alternative opinions or beliefs".
But many wish to push their opinions or beliefs as fact.
Not sure why people have a problem with this this term, as if it's not a valid concept.
All "alternative facts" means is when someone, either purposely or inadvertently cherry picks bits and pieces of information to tell a story, that, when viewed in a different way with all the facts, (or differently picked ones) may tell a very different story.
A simple example of how alternative facts manifest themselves in daily life might be when an accident, robbery or other event is witnessed by several different people from different angles, distances and levels of distraction, or attitudes about the event.
Each separate person may tell a different version of the event that they witnessed, without knowing or seeing the things from a different perspective.
But what's worse is when that perspective is purposely biased and the event is decribed with cherry picked information in a way that supports that bias and only that bias.
"Alternative facts" are simply the manifestation of our biased perspective.
The entire concept of alternative facts is based on the premise that what is being said is neither a lie nor a falsehood, but the truth that contradicts another version of the truth because it is seen from a different perspective or analyzed a different way. I am not sure why this is such a difficult concept.
Nothing wrong with the term "alternative facts".
But in the case of KAC, she was using it to defend a blatant lie. So, as the OP suggested, in certain context, it may be OK. Those conditions were not met by KAC when she used the term with Chuck Todd, hence the justified backlash and ridicule.
I get what you are saying however then you should say 'i didn't have all the facts and my assumption/interpretation was wrong'. What you don't say it that we were both correct and we had alternative facts. That just makes you look like an idiot
The entire concept of alternative facts is based on the premise that what is being said is neither a lie nor a falsehood, but the truth that contradicts another version of the truth because it is seen from a different perspective or analyzed a different way. I am not sure why this is such a difficult concept.
The source of the term "alternative facts" was Kellyanne Conway in refuting the widely reported crowd size at Trump's inauguration. It was clear to anyone who looked at the photos supplied by news agencies as well as the US Park Service, that Trump's inauguration was less attended than Obama's.
There are no versions of the truth in this; it is clear that Kellyanne was trying to promote a lie, which she was calling an "alternative fact".
A fact is truthful. I am 53 years old. This is a fact. If I say I'm 45 years old, that's a lie - or an "alternative fact". I can't even believe this is an actual discussion. If I say, "I wish I was 35 again", that's neither a fact or a lie, because it's not an absolute. Saying, "35 is the best age" is an opinion. It's not complicated.
And yet for some it is the New York Times crossword puzzle.
Not sure why people have a problem with this this term, as if it's not a valid concept.
All "alternative facts" means is when someone, either purposely or inadvertently cherry picks bits and pieces of information to tell a story, that, when viewed in a different way with all the facts, (or differently picked ones) may tell a very different story.
A simple example of how alternative facts manifest themselves in daily life might be when an accident, robbery or other event is witnessed by several different people from different angles, distances and levels of distraction, or attitudes about the event.
Each separate person may tell a different version of the event that they witnessed, without knowing or seeing the things from a different perspective.
But what's worse is when that perspective is purposely biased and the event is decribed with cherry picked information in a way that supports that bias and only that bias.
"Alternative facts" are simply the manifestation of our biased perspective.
So it is neither a complete lie or a complete truth. I would like better from our elected leaders.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
If I say, "I wish I was 35 again", that's neither a fact or a lie, because it's not an absolute. Saying, "35 is the best age" is an opinion. It's not complicated.
