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Old 03-25-2017, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Then explain hardworking White people who obey the law, pay taxes, and don't like him.
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I really am baffled by this. People are marching against Trump, the media is totally against him, the government hates on every little thing he does. And even as a liberal, this really confuses me...I'm not a fan of him at all, but the media , even media entertainment sites, suddenly shifted from "Look Kim Kardashian ate a pear!" to "GRRR WE GOTTA IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!" on virtually almost every news article. Just go to Yahoo, Buzzfeed, etc.

But my question is, what exactly has he done to instill so much fear in people? I'm confused because I never heard anything about him targeting certain groups of people in America (like any legal mexicans or blacks, jews, etc), besides wanting to vet illegal immigrants, which shouldn't even be an issue since immigrants are welcome as long as they follow the proper laws to come here. I've never really heard of him making fun of disabled people (that CNN video was such a hack job with that reporter). I don't know of any rights that are going to be taken away that he's mentioned. The LGBT community are freaking out about him, but I don't ever remember a Republican candidate...or ANY candidate before 2012 ever saying they were pro-gay marriage. But, I've never seen so much outrage over a President before...

The strange part to me is, 10 years ago, everyone pretty much liked Trump. He was just some billionaire businessman who talked about himself a lot, which I guess is okay, but he never appeared "evil" or "Hitler" like. If anything, he's more of a everyday-funnyman more than anything. And he's a womanizer, which, again, I don't see much of an issue with, as long there was consent then I mean, meh. I've never seen him come out and say he hates women or wants to take away their rights. That whole "grab em by the you know what" thing, IMO, was overblown, since that was a private conversation, but it was clearly just a guy talking about women. Not very appropriate, but....the dude likes women and he's old school about it. The only woman I've seen him talk crap about is Rosie O'Donnell...but I mean...she's Rosie O'Donnell so.......yeah.

But now, everyone is rallying against him. The whole "No Trump, No KKK, No fascist USA". Where does that chant even come from? Or even mean? I've never seen people get mad about someone saying "America First" and "putting the country first". Why is that such a bad statement?

The only thing I've seen Trump really say is that he wants to bring businesses back to America, fix the economy, keep our borders safe and secure, and to repeal and replace Obamacare. What exactly is so bad about that? The only thing I really see is that he tweets quite a bit and needs to chill on it and he may not be the most eloquent speaker next to Obama, but...is that a reason to want to impeach the guy?

So honest question, why are people so scared and worried about a Donald Trump presidency?

You want to know why we dislike Donald Trump so much ? How much time do you have ?
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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You're not paying attention.


If you were, you would understand that you are indeed despised.

I meet with respect and even friendliness everywhere I go. And I go lots of places.

Apparently, I am despised by you.

I don't obsess over it though. I surely don't let it affect my politics.
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Old 03-25-2017, 02:49 PM
 
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You want to know why we dislike Donald Trump so much ? How much time do you have ?
see another liberal that has no idea why he hate trump. I guess somebody told him he had to hate trump.
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Old 03-25-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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see another liberal that has no idea why he hate trump. I guess somebody told him he had to hate trump.
More like said persons know why, and it's that "get some popcorn, this will take a while", as in, alot of reasons. I've made my own reasons very clear.
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Besides his vile and vain personality, he is arrogant about his position despite doing zero homework on national politics and showing absolutely no interest on educating himself regarding the office he serves. Due to that arrogance, he simply assumes the presidency operates like a corporate CEO where he can clap his hands and the rest of the government falls into order.
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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I'm white, retired from a lifetime of work (started at 12), don't have a police record, never even been sued (unlike some folks I could mention), and no one has ever accused me of avoiding taxes (again, unlike some folks I could mention).

I don't feel a bit despised, BTW.

So how do you explain the fact that I've loathed Trump for approximately three decades now?
I watched some videos about Trump from the late 1980s/early 1990s. He came off as a sleazy businessman.
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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Oh, OK, I see the problem.


You hate white people too.
If you thnk this is the case, back your response up with some proof. Find one of said person's posts that would prove that he "hates White people". I'm not seeing it.
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Then explain hardworking White people who obey the law, pay taxes, and don't like him.
Like myself....
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by sonnymarkjiz View Post
I really am baffled by this. People are marching against Trump, the media is totally against him, the government hates on every little thing he does. And even as a liberal, this really confuses me...I'm not a fan of him at all, but the media , even media entertainment sites, suddenly shifted from "Look Kim Kardashian ate a pear!" to "GRRR WE GOTTA IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!" on virtually almost every news article. Just go to Yahoo, Buzzfeed, etc.

But my question is, what exactly has he done to instill so much fear in people? I'm confused because I never heard anything about him targeting certain groups of people in America (like any legal mexicans or blacks, jews, etc), besides wanting to vet illegal immigrants, which shouldn't even be an issue since immigrants are welcome as long as they follow the proper laws to come here. I've never really heard of him making fun of disabled people (that CNN video was such a hack job with that reporter). I don't know of any rights that are going to be taken away that he's mentioned. The LGBT community are freaking out about him, but I don't ever remember a Republican candidate...or ANY candidate before 2012 ever saying they were pro-gay marriage. But, I've never seen so much outrage over a President before...

The strange part to me is, 10 years ago, everyone pretty much liked Trump. He was just some billionaire businessman who talked about himself a lot, which I guess is okay, but he never appeared "evil" or "Hitler" like. If anything, he's more of a everyday-funnyman more than anything. And he's a womanizer, which, again, I don't see much of an issue with, as long there was consent then I mean, meh. I've never seen him come out and say he hates women or wants to take away their rights. That whole "grab em by the you know what" thing, IMO, was overblown, since that was a private conversation, but it was clearly just a guy talking about women. Not very appropriate, but....the dude likes women and he's old school about it. The only woman I've seen him talk crap about is Rosie O'Donnell...but I mean...she's Rosie O'Donnell so.......yeah.

But now, everyone is rallying against him. The whole "No Trump, No KKK, No fascist USA". Where does that chant even come from? Or even mean? I've never seen people get mad about someone saying "America First" and "putting the country first". Why is that such a bad statement?

The only thing I've seen Trump really say is that he wants to bring businesses back to America, fix the economy, keep our borders safe and secure, and to repeal and replace Obamacare. What exactly is so bad about that? The only thing I really see is that he tweets quite a bit and needs to chill on it and he may not be the most eloquent speaker next to Obama, but...is that a reason to want to impeach the guy?

So honest question, why are people so scared and worried about a Donald Trump presidency?


Don't you ever read? Or listen to serious news reports?

Here are some reasons that people hate him and are scared of him:

He is generally ignorant, even about his own business (it's been said that people have been startled at how little he knows about casinos).

He is particularly ignorant about American government in general and the Constitution in particular.

It's been clear for the last year that he's a petty, vicious, vindictive person.

He's completely lacking in self-control, and is very susceptible to influence and flattery.

He has a long history of racism and sexism. The racism got the Justice department cracking down on him, and the sexism would have gotten him fired from any ordinary job.

He clearly cares nothing about ordinary citizens, as can easily be seen in his budget.

He's already been shown to embody a level of corruption beyond anything in memory. By the way, do you know about his mafia connections?

Many of his choices to fill positions are simply rich cronies, including people whose own stances are hostile to their new jobs, such as Betsy De Vos, for education.

He has lied endlessly, to the point that not only is it written about all over the internet, but Time magazine made it their cover story.


Any one of these should give a sensible person pause. All of them together are terrifying.
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