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Old 03-23-2017, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
Let's repeal all government meddling.
>> No more licensed / privileged care givers <<
>> No more insurers skimming a vast fortune from the sick <<
>> No more socialized medicine <<
. . .
BEFORE GLORIOUS SOCIALISM (pre-1933)
. . .
1930 example
FCHP - Hospital bill from 1930
In 1930, $66 bought a mom in Kansas a 10-day hospital stay and delivery of her new baby.
($4/day for the room)
. . .
LA:
Verdugo Views: There was a time when a hospital stay cost $4 a day - LA Times
($4/day for the room in a ward. A front corner room went for $10 per day.)
. . .
Wages were much lower, too. A typical factory worker might make between $20 and $50 per week.

AFTER THE SOCIALIST REVOLUTION
Average Cost Per Inpatient Day Across 50 States in 2010
Hospital bed cost per day
United States
• State/local government hospitals — $1,625
• Non-profit hospitals — $2,025
• For-profit hospitals — $1,629

COST INCREASE : 40,725% increase ($1,629/$4)
($1,629/$4 = 407.25 X 100 = 40725%)
(Somebody has to pay for all the bureaucracy, paper work, clerks, adjusters, investigators, supervisors, guys in clown suits, etc, etc.)

This is the result of government meddling in medicine for over 120 years.
I guess you never considered adjusting your numbers for inflation.

 
Old 03-23-2017, 01:26 PM
 
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Weird. I don't get it for free. Never have. Nor do I get subsidies-my income is way too high for that.

And I like it a lot. It saves the life of a friend who discovered she had cancer. And if it bad been in place a couple years earlier, my mom would probably still be alive.

You don't get it from your employer?
 
Old 03-23-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by nmnita View Post
and I bet most of them do not understand it one bit.
Nor are the paying for it.
 
Old 03-23-2017, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The ONLY, I repeat, the ONLY people happy with it are the ones getting it for free. That IS A FACT!
And cancer patients; expecting mothers; those with drug treatment needs and many, many more...
The people who mostly benefit are the rich.

(See graph)
 
Old 03-23-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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The ONLY, I repeat, the ONLY people happy with it are the ones getting it for free. That IS A FACT!

Why are many conservatives happy to get it for free (from their employer) while opposing tax credits for people who don't get it for free and who actually have to PAY for it?
 
Old 03-23-2017, 01:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by illtaketwoplease View Post
majority of American voters support repeal and replace. they voted and won. bye bye obamacare...
Sadly, no.

The majority of Americans did not vote that way.
 
Old 03-23-2017, 01:32 PM
 
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Unbelievable that people still start threads about polls.


"When will they ever learn?"
 
Old 03-23-2017, 01:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
I guess you never considered adjusting your numbers for inflation.
Of course not, no outrage if you did that.
 
Old 03-23-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by freemkt View Post
Why are many conservatives happy to get it for free (from their employer) while opposing tax credits for people who don't get it for free and who actually have to PAY for it?
Exactly. I PAY for my insurance through the ACA. Never once missed a premium because I am so very thankful to have insurance after doing without for a decade.

I'd be fine with repealing the ACA subsidies just as long as everyone who is getting their insurance through their employers no longer have it subsidized by the federal government either. If you're going to force all of us who don't have access to employer-based health insurance to pay the full freight, fine, then make it so EVERYBODY pays full freight. You would see a revolution in this country like never before, as all the leeches** who are getting their subsidy through their employer suddenly see what the real cost of un-subsidized insurance costs. We who are self-employed have known it for years.



**I don't really believe they are leeches. I'm just trying to be consistent, since that's what I have been called on this board for years because my subsidy comes through an ACA exchange and not an employer.
 
Old 03-23-2017, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
Let's repeal all government meddling.
>> No more licensed / privileged care givers <<
>> No more insurers skimming a vast fortune from the sick <<
>> No more socialized medicine <<
. . .
BEFORE GLORIOUS SOCIALISM (pre-1933)
. . .
1930 example
FCHP - Hospital bill from 1930
In 1930, $66 bought a mom in Kansas a 10-day hospital stay and delivery of her new baby.
($4/day for the room)
. . .
LA:
Verdugo Views: There was a time when a hospital stay cost $4 a day - LA Times
($4/day for the room in a ward. A front corner room went for $10 per day.)
. . .
Wages were much lower, too. A typical factory worker might make between $20 and $50 per week.

AFTER THE SOCIALIST REVOLUTION
Average Cost Per Inpatient Day Across 50 States in 2010
Hospital bed cost per day
United States
• State/local government hospitals — $1,625
• Non-profit hospitals — $2,025
• For-profit hospitals — $1,629

COST INCREASE : 40,725% increase ($1,629/$4)
($1,629/$4 = 407.25 X 100 = 40725%)
(Somebody has to pay for all the bureaucracy, paper work, clerks, adjusters, investigators, supervisors, guys in clown suits, etc, etc.)

This is the result of government meddling in medicine for over 120 years.
This is the most ignorant post ever.

Why don't we just go back to the Middle Ages and exsanguinate everybody? People will die, but it'll be cheap.

Heart attack? DEAD-no Cath lab.

A regular childbirth doesn't need 10 days in the hospital. Two days & you go home.

Why do Republicans want to kill people?
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