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Old 03-24-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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Not unnoticed at all -- it's in all the news. Or in the news I read.
waldo likes to post anything and everything that might distract , and likes to pretend she is drawing attention to things the "msm" is not telling the public.

These pipelines are not really needed and are more about Trump pandering to his base. 20K jobs my arse, more like 20k temp jobs.
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Old 03-24-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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More from our brilliant president. Seeing how he loves taking landowners' property away using Eminent Domain, he cannot understand why they need permission. And of course, Trump is lying about the amount of jobs--would expect nothing less.

"....The company last month filed for the Nebraska PSC permit, which is necessary for construction and in cases in which the company resorts to using eminent domain because landowners refuse to let construction take place.

At the Oval Office Friday, Trump seemed surprised that TransCanada still needed the state’s approval. Trump said “I’ll call Nebraska.” He praised Nebraska’s governor Pete Ricketts (R) and said he would call Ricketts today. Ricketts, however, does not have a role in the PSC decision...."

A State Department report on the pipeline that was issued under the Obama administration found that there would be 3,900 direct construction jobs if it was built over one year, or 1,950 if the work was spread over two years....Once the pipeline opens it would require only 35 full-time permanent jobs to run it, and 15 full-time temporary jobs,


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/03/24/trump-administration-grants-approval-for-keystone-xl-pipeline/?utm_term=.65bb07fd58e1

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-24/transcanada-granted-presidential-permit-for-keystone-xl-pipeline
I have to color and highlight the above. The rubes that think, "OMG hundreds of thousands of jobs!111!11!!" is all gonna disappear rather quickly. You want to brag about creating infrastructure jobs? Instead of getting a "certain sexual reaction" out of building an oil pipeline, how about rebuilding all of the water and sewer infrastructure in the US? There's your hundreds of thousands of jobs, and it's not gonna take 1 year to complete I can tell you
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Old 03-24-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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As much as Obama tried, American ingenuity can not be stopped.


Go Trump!
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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i'm torn. As for the environment -- I think it is disastrous...especially considering the source of the oil.

As a Canadian first (American only since 2008) I know that Alberta needs this they are hurting bad in that province for jobs and it will indeed return jobs to them..

As an American - I'm wondering if the job benefit will really beneficial -- given this is a Canadian company's project. I know they have to abide by the original agreement and use some American resources (human and otherwise) but is the gain really going to be worth it for the potential for environmental damage either just occurring because of the construction, or with accidental leaks.

I'm uncommitted on this issue...but think it is a little ironic that the big project that 'Make America Great Again" administration is all puffed up in the chest about, is a Canadian project.
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:47 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Canadian Company selling Canadian Oil, building the pipeline with Canadian workers, Russian and Korean steel and being sold to the Pacific Rim countries not named U.S.A, all while using eminent domain to kick about 200 farmers off of their property
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Those "jobs" will last about two weeks and the pipeline is NOT being built with American steel. More BS from your fact-free President.
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:52 AM
 
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waldo likes to post anything and everything that might distract , and likes to pretend she is drawing attention to things the "msm" is not telling the public.
Dear,

If my posts drive you to uncontrolled distraction, and you can't handle it, then put me on ignore. The rest of us are adults and can decide on our own what is important and what isn't.

In this case, Donald Trump kept a campaign promise. It's nice to see a President do that for a change.
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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The pipeline that isn't necessary and will endanger a third of the country's water supply, but has long been an AM talk-radio talking point, much like ANWR.
Agreed.
Tar sands oil from Canada is not the answer. There is no justification for the harm this will cause to our air, soil and waterways--so that oil companies can make more money.

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/dirty-f...-tar-sands-oil

This link goes into more detail on how much pollution will be caused. I still hope somehow this can be defeated.
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:55 AM
 
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Canadian Company selling Canadian Oil, building the pipeline with Canadian workers, Russian and Korean steel and being sold to the Pacific Rim countries not named U.S.A, all while using eminent domain to kick about 200 farmers off of their property
American ingenuity at its best! Making America Great Again.....

Isn't it ironic........
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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waldo likes to post anything and everything that might distract , and likes to pretend she is drawing attention to things the "msm" is not telling the public.

These pipelines are not really needed and are more about Trump pandering to his base. 20K jobs my arse, more like 20k temp jobs.
It is somewhat under 20K very temporary jobs.. Fewer than 40 full-time jobs and will most likely be Canadians as it is a Canadian pipeline.

The oil has mostly been contracted for to go overseas. So essentially we are allowing Canada to run a pipeline through our country, near our waterways, over the objections of people who live there, so they can sell oil to other nations.

They're using Russian and Canadian steel. Trump signed off on it. (I know he announced at his Kentucky rally that it was all American made. It is not.)

For the life of me, I don't understand what Americans get out of this. If anything, we are getting the short end of this deal.
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