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Old 03-26-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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Who ordered that aircraft carrier to Korea? I don't think Trump is a military minded person who is making military decisions. Is the military acting on its own without any interference from the white house? I wonder.
Other examples also. Sending troops to Syria recently for instance.
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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Presidents don't micro manage every exercise.

"The aircraft carrier and a US destroyer will conduct naval drills including an anti-submarine manoeuvre with South Koreans in waters off the Korean peninsula as part of the annual Foal Eagle exercise."

US aircraft carrier Carl Vinson in South Korea for show of force against North | South China Morning Post
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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You mean the carrier on joint exercises with the South Korean navy? 'the military' is going to make thousands of decisions every day without the White House, just like they always have - you don't think Obama really had anything to do with getting Bin Laden do you? The Joint Chiefs consult the president, probably often, but they're going to make many decisions about national security on their own. It was probably the secretary of the Navy who ordered the carrier to Korea. They aren't going to consult with the president over every ship deployment.

Look at the bio of the SecNav, looks like positioning ships is right up his alley. Navy.mil Leadership Biographies
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:43 AM
 
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I thought I read an article on FOX that they cut Trump out of the loop after the disastrous Yemen raid that killed Navy SEAL Chief Petty Officer Ryan Owens?

I think most deployments are decided by uniformed leadership, not by civilians. The SecDEF and branch secretaries basically only set the overall policy.
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/w...-in-yemen.html
WASHINGTON — The White House is considering giving the Pentagon more independent authority to conduct counterterrorism raids as part of an effort to accelerate the fight against the Islamic State and other militant organizations, administration officials said on Thursday.
Such a step would allow military commanders to move more swiftly against terrorism suspects, streamlining a decision-making process that often dragged on under the Obama administration, frustrating Pentagon officials.
The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, called the proposal “a philosophy more than a change in policy.” He said that “the protocol is not changing in terms of what has to be signed off,” but added that Mr. Trump believed “these are the experts in the field.”
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/w...-in-yemen.html
WASHINGTON — The White House is considering giving the Pentagon more independent authority to conduct counterterrorism raids as part of an effort to accelerate the fight against the Islamic State and other militant organizations, administration officials said on Thursday.
Such a step would allow military commanders to move more swiftly against terrorism suspects, streamlining a decision-making process that often dragged on under the Obama administration, frustrating Pentagon officials.
The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, called the proposal “a philosophy more than a change in policy.” He said that “the protocol is not changing in terms of what has to be signed off,” but added that Mr. Trump believed “these are the experts in the field.”
That's more of lazy Trump passing the work and the buck. Take credit for successes and blame others for screw-ups.
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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tRUMP gave a military command a few days after taking office. It resulted in the controversial death of a Navy Seal. He and Ivanka (never mind why it wasn't Melania) went to Dover Airbase to meet the family. They would not meet with him.

A few days later, the WH gave the military more power to make these military moves without consulting with President Bonkers.
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:18 PM
 
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That's more of lazy Trump passing the work and the buck. Take credit for successes and blame others for screw-ups.
Nothing wrong with that.
Military should take responsibility for their own area of expertise.
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:18 PM
 
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Micro management of the military from the white house has been an unmitigated disaster whenever attempted.
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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Hope so, since there's precious little leadership coming out of the White House.
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