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As much as I hate Muslims, this video is bull****.
It pretends as if the Muslims and Jews have an equal claim to the land. As if the Jews were half of the population in 1939, or even 1947. It ignores the reality of the British occupation of Palestine, and the Balfour Declaration.
It pretends as if foreign governments played no role. I mean, why do you think tiny Israel was able to defeat all of its neighbors? It had significant support from the United States, just as it still does today. Why?
And for that matter, these same Zionists continue to steal what is left of the Palestinian lands.
Israel doesn't actually want peace. Why would they?
As much as I hate Muslims, this video is bull****.
It pretends as if the Muslims and Jews have an equal claim to the land. As if the Jews were half of the population in 1939, or even 1947. It ignores the reality of the British occupation of Palestine, and the Balfour Declaration.
There were two possibilities 1. One state solution. 2. Two states solutions. The UN decided to go with two states solutions because such different and hostile ethnicities cannot live together. Arabs got most of the viable land. Most of the Jewish land is desert.
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I mean, why do you think tiny Israel was able to defeat all of its neighbors? It had significant support from the United States, just as it still does today. Why?
Actually most of the support came from USSR. Stalin allowed Czechoslovakia to sell weapons to Israel while USA embargoed it. But, the main reasons for the victory was the level of the Israeli soldiers and their understanding that if they lose, Arabs will slaughter their families.
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And for that matter, these same Zionists continue to steal what is left of the Palestinian lands.
You cannot steal what belongs to you. A Jew cannot "Steal" Judea, Israel cannot "occupy" the land of Israel.
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Israel doesn't actually want peace. Why would they?
Actually they want. They have peace with Egypt and Jordan, and they paid for it with land and water. The issue with the Palestinians is that they cannot get over they defeat in 1948 and they want to place in Israel 5-6 millions Arabs ("Right of return").
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As much as I hate Muslims, this video is bull****.
It pretends as if the Muslims and Jews have an equal claim to the land. As if the Jews were half of the population in 1939, or even 1947. It ignores the reality of the British occupation of Palestine, and the Balfour Declaration.
Whilst Balfour suggested there was room for a Jewish population in Palestine, British policy was in fact to restrict Jewish Migration to Palestine.
After WW2, Britain was heaviliy criticised for turning back Jewish Ships heading for Palestine and setting up internment camps on Cyprus. The US Truman Administration were especially critical of Britain.
Britain (given it's experience in the region) warned Truman and the UN against the partitioning of Palestine and the creation of a Jewish State of Israel but was ignored.
In terms of the UN Vote in relation to the partitioning and creation of the State of Israel, Britain was the only western nation not to vote in favour, instead abstaining from the voting in order not to upset it's allies.
There were two possibilities 1. One state solution. 2. Two states solutions. The UN decided to go with two states solutions because such different and hostile ethnicities cannot live together. Arabs got most of the viable land. Most of the Jewish land is desert.
1) There were almost no Jews in Palestine prior to WWI.
2) The goal of the Jews was to create a Jewish state. They were the ones who wanted independence. And prior to Jewish victory in 1948, it was the Zionists who were the terrorists.
3) The Muslims did not want partition. Just like America didn't want partition of America in 1861. Just like China doesn't want to let go of Tibet. Just like Russia doesn't want to let go of Chechnya. Just like Spain doesn't want to let go of Catalonia, etc.
4) In the case of the UN partition plan, every single Middle-East country opposed it. It was nothing more than the superpowers and their allies, carving up the Middle-East. And which they had no right to do.
Imagine if we had occupied China after WWII, brought in millions of Jews, then tried to split China between the Jews and the Chinese. What do you think would happen?
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Actually most of the support came from USSR. Stalin allowed Czechoslovakia to sell weapons to Israel while USA embargoed it. But, the main reasons for the victory was the level of the Israeli soldiers and their understanding that if they lose, Arabs will slaughter their families.
Without foreign support, Israel wouldn't exist, period.
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
-The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
-The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
-The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
-The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
-The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
-The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
-The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
-The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
-The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
-The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
-The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
-The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
-The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
-The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
-The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
-The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
-The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
-The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
-The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
-The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
-The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
-The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
-The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
-The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
Think of it:
Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
***WHEREAS...
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
***SO THIS LEADS TO...
They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan
***So, where are they happy?...
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!
And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy
Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR DIRECTIVE
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!
And they shouldn't. It's supposed to be split. Israel never offers a fair deal. It would have to include all the land they stole but they just keep stealing more!
I don't see them ever "splitting it."
Jerusalem has deep meaning in both Islam and Judaism.
And the Koran instructs the faithful to kill Jews wherever you find them. Would you split a city with them?
Because Israel builds settlements on their land. The UN said that building settlements is an impediment to peace. With this moron in the White House, Israel has free reign to do as it pleases.
Why would Israel keep bui.ding settlements and do everything that is against peace while it insists it wants peace?
Actions speak louder than words....
Israel wants pieces, not peace
The West Bank is under Israeli sovereignty. It belongs to Israel, they can do whatever they want there. "Palestine" does not exist. It's a make believe country. It would be like calling Wyoming a country.
Interesting how Israel has given what seems to be some pretty nice deals to the Palestinians 5 times yet they keep rejecting them, even when they were given the Gaza strip they just turned it into a terrorist strong hold.
cool story but i get the feeling you are just tossing history in the trash to suit your worldview. I have nothing against the jewish people, but it is not thier land and even after getting a stolen country they stole more.
The USA and UK were the primary actors who feeling bad for the jewish people decided to ignore the people living there and just hand over another group.
over the course of the last 2,000 years that area belong to various muslim groups for almost the entire time. the europeans drove out the muslims for short periods of time.
the root of all of our modern issues in the middle east are directly linked to the choice we made in 1948. We did that, and we to this day have failed to fix it.
Pretending it is ok to take over a land, steal property, remove rights and bar entry to those who have owned and ruled the area for thousands of years is just bullshat.
one day they WILL take those lands back by force if needed and it will be our fault for failing to force Israel to find a solution.
I get that most americans like to pretend the that area was "disputed" but that is our lie. For thousands of years the area was completely ruled by muslims from one part of the area or another. Christians were often welcomed there, but they did not own or control apart from the times they took it by force until once again they were pushed out.
(yeah i know i will get a lot of hate for my post, but we need to stop pretending this is cut and dried, that is just propaganda.)
They want Israel- period. A tiny piece of land, that they will never get. Reminds me of the toddler that has 100 toys, and wants the one toy another child has. After trying for several thousand years, you'd think they would learn!
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