Why do the Palestinians keep refusing peace? (legal, nationalist, borders)
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The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
-The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
-The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
-The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
-The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
-The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
-The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
-The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
-The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
-The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
-The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
-The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
-The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
-The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
-The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
-The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
-The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
-The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
-The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
-The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
-The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
-The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
-The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
-The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
-The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
Think of it:
Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
***WHEREAS...
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
***SO THIS LEADS TO...
They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan
***So, where are they happy?...
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!
And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy
Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR DIRECTIVE
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!
Merkel is offended at your telling the truth about her Islamic friends!
The Bible has specific things to say about Israel (Note: Islam/the Muslims did not exist prior to circa 630 A.D) when Mohammed wrote the Quran:
The land of Canaan (Israel) was given to the Jews long before the "Palestinians" existed:
1500 BC - Genesis 17:8 (NIV) - "The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.”
1300-1100 BC - Exodus 23:31 - (KJV) - "And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee."
1250-1050 BC - Twelve tribes of Israel occupied Canaan (later becoming Israel/Judah and later, the united nation of Israel.
It was prophesied that the Arabs (descendants of Ishmael - Mohammed) - would become a great nation, but, would never be at peace with anyone:
1500 BC - Genesis 16:11-12 (NIV) -The angel of the Lord also said to her [Hagar], “You are now pregnant and you will give birth to a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the Lord has heard of your misery. 12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward[b] all his brothers.”
The Jews were given the land of Canaan and instructed to totally occupy it. Instead, they failed to fully wipe the Canaanites from the land. As a result, God said those areas would always be a thorn in the side of Israel. Those areas are today occupied by the "Palestinians"
1400 BC - Numbers 33:54-56 - …54 "You shall inherit the land by lot according to your families; to the larger you shall give more inheritance, and to the smaller you shall give less inheritance. Wherever the lot falls to anyone, that shall be his. You shall inherit according to the tribes of your fathers. 55 But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come about that those whom you let remain of them will become as pricks in your eyes and as thorns in your sides, and they will trouble you in the land in which you live. 56 'And as I plan to do to them, so I will do to you.'"…
1100 BC - Judges 2:3 (NAS) "2 and as for you, you shall make no covenant with the inhabitants of this land; you shall tear down their altars.' But you have not obeyed Me; what is this you have done? 3 "Therefore I also said, I will not drive them out before you; but they will become as thorns in your sides and their gods will be a snare to you.'"
"Palestinian" Arabs migrated into the vacant land after the Jews were scattered abroad. It was never established as a nation or country. When Israel was re-established as a nation in 1948, the surrounding Arabs refused to accept the "Palestinian" Arabs into their lands. (The End Time re-establishment of Israel had also been prophesied). The Arab/"Palestinians" will never establish a nation/country in the land of Israel (/Canaan)...nor will Israel ever again be driven from that land.
Those who stand against Israel, are standing against God and His plan:
1500 BC - Genesis 12:2-3 - "2 “I will make you [Abraham] into a great nation, and I will bless you;
I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”
The Jews were in the area (Palestine, Israel, or whatever you wish to call it) going back to about 2000 BC, when Abraham came there (from what is now Iraq). The Palestinians (Philistines) were there only going back to about 1100 B.C. So if we go by who is 'more indigenous' (so to speak) the Jews win that argument.
And if we compare Jews and Muslims, the gap is even wider. Muslims were not around until Mohammed founded Islam in the early 7th century, and did not conduct their military conquest of Palestine until around 630 AD, over 2600 years after Abraham purchased Machpelah in Hebron.
1) There were almost no Jews in Palestine prior to WWI.
So what? Things changes.
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Originally Posted by Redshadowz
2) The goal of the Jews was to create a Jewish state. They were the ones who wanted independence. And prior to Jewish victory in 1948, it was the Zionists who were the terrorists.
3) The Muslims did not want partition. Just like America didn't want partition of America in 1861. Just like China doesn't want to let go of Tibet. Just like Russia doesn't want to let go of Chechnya. Just like Spain doesn't want to let go of Catalonia, etc.
America, China, Russia, Spain were all independent states. There were never Arab state in "Palestine". It was a fair game.
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4) In the case of the UN partition plan, every single Middle-East country opposed it. It was nothing more than the superpowers and their allies, carving up the Middle-East. And which they had no right to do.
The strong has the right. Arabs belong to the Arab peninsula. They occupied middle East and were occupied by the west. That how thing goes.
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Originally Posted by Redshadowz
Imagine if we had occupied China after WWII, brought in millions of Jews, then tried to split China between the Jews and the Chinese. What do you think would happen?
China is a state that exist thousands of years. Palestine never exist.
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Originally Posted by Redshadowz
Without foreign support, Israel wouldn't exist, period.
The West Bank is under Israeli sovereignty. It belongs to Israel, they can do whatever they want there. "Palestine" does not exist. It's a make believe country. It would be like calling Wyoming a country.
Would you be willing to give all Palestinians citizenship if they sincerely converted en masse to Orthodox Judaism? Or does their racial and ethnic background make you hesitant to ever be comfortable with giving them citizenship?
I was just reading this past article from Time magazine:
The action began [c. 1950?] when the U.N. voted to solve the Palestine conundrum then ruled by Britain by creating a Jewish state and a Palestinian state side by side. The Jews accepted the compromise; the Palestinians rejected it and joined five outside Arab countries in a war to destroy the Jewish state and take all the territory for themselves....
So in 2005 the Palestinians are given Gaza, free of any Jews. Do they begin building the state they say they want, constructing schools and roads and hospitals? No. They launch rockets at civilians and dig a 300-yard tunnel under the border to attack Israeli soldiers and bring back a hostage.
The truth is, the Jews were being forced onto the Arabs without their consent. It would be as if Russia occupied Texas and replaced 1/3rd of its population with Jews against the will of the Texans. And then the Jews that were brought to Texas, suddenly wanted to separate from Texas, and started killing the native Texans, while demanding most of the Texas coastline, and land far in excess of their proportion of the overall population.
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Originally Posted by mash123
Although there were Jewish terrorists, most of the terror was from the Arab side.
Did you even read your link? From 1938 until 1947, nearly every single terrorist attack was by Jews, by a group called "Irgun".
One of the terrorist attacks being the infamous bombing of the King David Hotel. Which was actually aimed at the British authorities, and caused Britain to pull out of Palestine, setting up the Arab-Israeli war.
America, China, Russia, Spain were all independent states. There were never Arab state in "Palestine". It was a fair game.
Palestine had been Arab for 1300 years. It had been a part of the Ottoman empire for hundreds of years, only being carved up after they lost WWI. Imagine if America had been conquered and carved up, and people were like, "There was never a Texas nation, its all fair game".
I think you know what happened in Israel was BS. But honestly, it was no different than what America did to the Native-Americans. Where we conquered this entire continent, took their land, often by paying them little or nothing, and then forced them to relocate to other parts of the country, and then stole that land as well.
And just like with the Native-Americans, if they dared to fight back, we would wipe out their entire village, and call it "collateral damage".
The idea that Israel is the good guy in this, is bull****. The video is propaganda, and based on a pseudo-history, that would make anyone who knows the real history, want to vomit. And as I said, I hate Muslims with the best of them.
Yeah, Islamists HATE Israel, Jews and non-Muslims.
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