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Old 03-30-2017, 01:30 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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An excuse that is always complete BS. How can you speak for all Muslims and/or Arabs? How do you know what an entire group wants, and deny them functional access to what you say that they don't want in doing so?

You're making an excuse because you don't want to provide it.

It seems to me as if the years long conversion process is merely an obstacle to prevent racial outsiders from converting in large numbers.
The long conversion process is for everyone wishing to convert. Since you already question my word, why don't you go and create a thread in the Judaism forum asking what the process is?
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Old 04-01-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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The long conversion process is for everyone wishing to convert. Since you already question my word, why don't you go and create a thread in the Judaism forum asking what the process is?
Question your word in regard to what, exactly?

I know what the process is. You aren't reading closely enough. What I said was that the long process was to keep racial outsiders from converting. This method is also reinforced by the second tier noachide path.

In general, the long conversion path, which is sometimes even reversed after conversion, in combination with rabbinic dissuasion, the noachide filter, and general hostility toward converts (ie: the mishnaic scale of lineages in the formal sense, everyday hostility in the informal sense) adds up to racial protection: especially when they have used genetic testing as a way to validate Jewish lineage toward justifying conveyance of Israeli citizenship for immigrants.

If this process were subject to US law, it would be deemed to have 'disparate impact' in the extreme. If it is ever to have the stink of racial protection removed, then enough converts need to be allowed into the fold so that it is impossible to validate who is Jewish through genetics. Anything else wreaks of racial protection. If Judaism wishes to play the anti-racist game outside of Israel, then certainly it will not protest when the world looks to it for leadership in being anti-racist in its own ranks. That starts with allowing mass conversions of all races into their fold.
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