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As opposed to churches which have ALWAYS been indoctrination camps?
If colleges are indoctrination camps as you say, at least they are targeting individuals whose reasoning faculties have come to a point of maturity, rather than targeting children before they are capable of critical thinking.
Agreed. I don't think persecution of Christians will end until we elect the first Christian president. Then we can finally come out of the shadows and proclaim our faith.
I suspect that many will not get the point of this post.
That this thread devolved into a discussion of the existence of Jesus and the crucification rather proves the relevancy of the the issue raised in the class: historicity.
The young man lost me with this statement:
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“Honestly, it reminded me of some of the more radical groups I researched when abroad,” Polston told the Central Florida Post about his professor’s comments on Jesus. ... “Whether religious or not, I believe even those with limited knowledge of Christianity can agree that according to the text, Jesus was crucified and his followers did believe he was divine… that he was ‘God,’” he continued. “Regardless, to assert the contrary as academic fact is not supported by the evidence.”
Here: he's clearly wrong on both points. The movement - both within the academic and, increasingly, the online community - to examine the historicity of Jesus comes NOT from insidious Muslim influences but is driven in large part by former evangelical Christians, although some researchers are long-term atheists.
Disagree or not with various positions and the validity of proffered "evidence," the work of professors like Bart Ehrman commands respect both in academic world and in religious institutions. Frequent debates among academics, writers, and religious leaders now examine various questions with conferences held to evaluate ongoing research. Bible colleges are at the forefront of taking a look at the historicity movement - if only to gain expertise in mounting an effective counter-argument.
It sounds to me like this young man was trying to stake out a position to make a name for himself - at the expense of "free debate" in the college class that he enrolled himself in. Well ... in that he succeeded.
If you are "living in the shadows" because of your faith, that is your own doing. Christians ARE NOT persecuted in this country and have no reason to fear being vocal in their faith. Goodness gracious. Also, we've had PLENTY of Christian presidents.
Which was exactly the point of the post you quoted.
Way to pretend to miss the point. I thought ABQConvict's remark was quite clever.
But I don't think anybody of any political stripe thinks Donald is a Christian, lol, even his supporters. He did pick up his second wife in the church he attended while married to his first wife, however, so maybe that was sort of a religious experience for him.
I thought so too but clearly it was much too subtle for many to grasp.
Par for the course, I suppose, when so many members of the majority religion in this country still perceive themselves as literally persecuted.
Well you do think a dude came back to life after being stone dead for 3 days so you may be right, since your critical thinking faculties clearly never kicked in.
Actually, this article doesn't explain anything from the teacher's point of view. This is solely from the view of Mr Polston, who doesn't just have an interest in proclaiming his innocence as a student. Mr Polston has a vlog he is promoting, and an entire agenda. His agenda is probably why he chose to challenge the professor.
However, the letter of suspension makes it clear he was not suspended just for disrupting the class. He is admonished to refrain from any contact with the professor, and with a fellow student. Both of whom feel threatened by him. They don't feel threatened because he's a Christian. They feel threatened because he's gone beyond just challenging them.
In this extremely conservative link you can find the letter of suspension.
Well you do think a dude came back to life after being stone dead for 3 days so you may be right, since your critical thinking faculties clearly never kicked in.
He seems to have gone beyond being involved in healthy, respectful debating and moved into stalker, threatening territory. Just because he 'toured the Middle East and is familiar with Muslim culture' does not make him an expert on either the culture or the religion. Of course we are only hearing one side of the story but from the article, he comes across as rather pompous and arrogant.
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Originally Posted by ABQConvict
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Agreed. I don't think persecution of Christians will end until we elect the first Christian president. Then we can finally come out of the shadows and proclaim our faith.
America has elected presidents who claimed to be Christian. I think that the last president who really seemed like a christian was Jimmy Carter and I didn't see hordes of believers coming out to proclaim the faith during his term in office. American Christians haven't been really persecuted for their faith as Christians have been in other countries but that day is coming. It will be real interesting to see how many 'Christians' are willing to die for their faith when push comes to shove.
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