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Old 03-30-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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A humanities professor is nothing more than a preacher from the pulpit preaching their view. I've had a number of humanities classes at the college level. just about every one of the professors abused their power as they projected their ideological "truth" onto the class.

I've even had a couple science professors do the same in their attempts to explain "god".


In reality, their opinion is no more valid than the students they instruct. They can ascribe to a religion and project their view, but they have no right to project this onto children as some type of truth that's been discovered by some "expert".
If you read the earlier part of the thread, you would see that this student had a history of antagonizing the professor, to the point where she had to file a restraining order due to stalking. He wrote a particularly unhinged (and poorly written!) email to her in the midst of all of this.

This had nothing to do with religion or ideology (at least on the side of the professor) and everything to do with a disruptive student with an ax to grind.

 
Old 03-30-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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A humanities professor is nothing more than a preacher from the pulpit preaching their view. I've had a number of humanities classes at the college level. just about every one of the professors abused their power as they projected their ideological "truth" onto the class.

I've even had a couple science professors do the same in their attempts to explain "god".


In reality, their opinion is no more valid than the students they instruct. They can ascribe to a religion and project their view, but they have no right to project this onto children as some type of truth that's been discovered by some "expert".
How is a sophomore in college a child?

I had professors who preached and professors who taught. I had both. The best professors I had tended to use the Socratic method. The worst had a narrative they wanted you to agree with. Ultimately, I was smart enough to understand the difference. I had written a pretty critical Women's Studies paper, explaining how the demonization white men would lead them to support a more radical and exclusive ideology. I prefaced that with agreement. I agree; white privilege is a thing, women in general have it worse than men, all that stuff. But if you exclude people because of their "privilege" they're not going to be sympathetic to your views at all.

A few years later, Donald Trump was elected president. Not to give myself more credit that I deserve, but I think it's fair to say that my paper kind of predicted that.

To reference another course, I wrote a political philosophy paper advocating for a more socially conscious economic system. In this paper, I was asked (as were all students) to consider an argument against our point of view and address it. The harder the problem to address, the better. I got a B- on my paper for not addressing those flaws sufficiently. Another girl got an A-; she wrote about a more libertarian style society. The professor was a self described Marxist.

The hatred for academia is foolish. Some professors are good, some not so good. Rather than demonize academia, how about we try supporting good academia?
 
Old 03-30-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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How is a sophomore in college a child?

I had professors who preached and professors who taught. I had both. The best professors I had tended to use the Socratic method. The worst had a narrative they wanted you to agree with. Ultimately, I was smart enough to understand the difference. I had written a pretty critical Women's Studies paper, explaining how the demonization white men would lead them to support a more radical and exclusive ideology. I prefaced that with agreement. I agree; white privilege is a thing, women in general have it worse than men, all that stuff. But if you exclude people because of their "privilege" they're not going to be sympathetic to your views at all.

A few years later, Donald Trump was elected president. Not to give myself more credit that I deserve, but I think it's fair to say that my paper kind of predicted that.

To reference another course, I wrote a political philosophy paper advocating for a more socially conscious economic system. In this paper, I was asked (as were all students) to consider an argument against our point of view and address it. The harder the problem to address, the better. I got a B- on my paper for not addressing those flaws sufficiently. Another girl got an A-; she wrote about a more libertarian style society. The professor was a self described Marxist.

The hatred for academia is foolish. Some professors are good, some not so good. Rather than demonize academia, how about we try supporting good academia?
My narrative includes those at that public education sector not indicating this guy as a "child".

Agreed regarding the liberal bias and subjective grading in humanities also. I find it amusing that the only "B's" I'd get would be from socialist-leaning humanities professors while I'm getting 97-98 percents in the physical sciences.

I work in academia. I'm calling out "poor academia".

I obviously in my position support good academia. Sadly what I see in the college sector; however, is this is not what we have. Massive curves, entitled students that feel they don't have to put in any work and get an 'A', administrations that coddle that mindset due to increasing TUITION dollars, etc.
 
Old 03-30-2017, 09:18 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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As I thought. One crazy being taught by another.

She wants to Islamify Jesus to her students.
He goes unhinged about it.
 
Old 03-30-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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If you read the earlier part of the thread, you would see that this student had a history of antagonizing the professor, to the point where she had to file a restraining order due to stalking. He wrote a particularly unhinged (and poorly written!) email to her in the midst of all of this.

This had nothing to do with religion or ideology (at least on the side of the professor) and everything to do with a disruptive student with an ax to grind.
From your article...

"“He has disrupted class twice (we’ve only had two classes) with antagonizing interjections, contradicting me and monopolizing class time,” Zufari wrote in a Feb. 3 email with the subject line: Problem student. “His attitude is contemptuous.”


Who's definition of "disruption" are we talking about here? Calling out a professor that interjects their own personal belief as some FACT onto the class?

I would have "disrupted" as well. Too many of the teachers preach their gospel truth abusing their position of authority.


The sad fact and reality is, if they are talking Jesus attempting to reconcile Islam and Christianities perspective of Him with the crucifixion and resurrection they will never be able to do so.

The Koran claims to believe the Bible as inspired and then by its actions calls it a liar projecting the Koran as superior.

fyi, there is plenty of evidence of the resurrection event.

Three Questions That A Muslim Professor Can't Answer About Jesus' Resurrection | The Daily Caller


So to deny it ultimately is ignorance, not to mention not presenting the "facts".


These teachers should be called out for projecting "their truth" as "THE" truth onto young minds.
 
Old 03-30-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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From your article...

"“He has disrupted class twice (we’ve only had two classes) with antagonizing interjections, contradicting me and monopolizing class time,” Zufari wrote in a Feb. 3 email with the subject line: Problem student. “His attitude is contemptuous.”


Who's definition of "disruption" are we talking about here? Calling out a professor that interjects their own personal belief as some FACT onto the class?

I would have "disrupted" as well. Too many of the teachers preach their gospel truth abusing their position of authority.


The sad fact and reality is, if they are talking Jesus attempting to reconcile Islam and Christianities perspective of Him with the crucifixion and resurrection they will never be able to do so.

The Koran claims to believe the Bible as inspired and then by its actions calls it a liar projecting the Koran as superior.

fyi, there is plenty of evidence of the resurrection event.

Three Questions That A Muslim Professor Can't Answer About Jesus' Resurrection | The Daily Caller


So to deny it ultimately is ignorance, not to mention not presenting the "facts".


These teachers should be called out for projecting "their truth" as "THE" truth onto young minds.
I would personally love to see that someone had video'ed it and make my mind up myself.
 
Old 03-30-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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"‘On the one hand you report me to the dean for correcting you while you were indoctrinating students with false information. On the other hand a Muslim student in class cracks a joke about chopping someone’s body parts off and you do nothing.’

This is part of the student's email.

Yet it's being called "disrupting" when a student calls out a teacher for "indoctrinating students with false information."



We need more kids like this that are able to call a spade a spade.
 
Old 03-30-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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I would personally love to see that someone had video'ed it and make my mind up myself.
Based upon what was written, the teacher professed their opinion on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and projected it onto the class as some type of confirmed fact.

She can say it's in his/her belief and belief of their religion, but the line is crossed when it's projected as some type of confirmed fact.

This teacher by FAR is not the only one doing this in this country. I applaud any student that calls out the professor if or when they cross this line.
 
Old 03-30-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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From your article...

"“He has disrupted class twice (we’ve only had two classes) with antagonizing interjections, contradicting me and monopolizing class time,” Zufari wrote in a Feb. 3 email with the subject line: Problem student. “His attitude is contemptuous.”


Who's definition of "disruption" are we talking about here? Calling out a professor that interjects their own personal belief as some FACT onto the class?

I would have "disrupted" as well. Too many of the teachers preach their gospel truth abusing their position of authority.


The sad fact and reality is, if they are talking Jesus attempting to reconcile Islam and Christianities perspective of Him with the crucifixion and resurrection they will never be able to do so.

The Koran claims to believe the Bible as inspired and then by its actions calls it a liar projecting the Koran as superior.

fyi, there is plenty of evidence of the resurrection event.

Three Questions That A Muslim Professor Can't Answer About Jesus' Resurrection | The Daily Caller


So to deny it ultimately is ignorance, not to mention not presenting the "facts".


These teachers should be called out for projecting "their truth" as "THE" truth onto young minds.
Well, those are three questions this Jew can't answer either (though citing the New Testament as "proof" is laughable to me). It doesn't matter - those are matters of faith, not fact and would have no business in a college paper.

One of the hardest A's I ever earned was in a college course on Christian theology, taught by a Christian professor. At no point did I ever have to compromise my religious beliefs by agreeing with Christian thought. The class didn't turn me Christian (oh, anything but!). It was tricky to write about matters of faith WITHOUT factoring in my own beliefs, but I wouldn't be much of a college student if I couldn't figure out how to separate the two, could I?

I also work in higher ed full time while earning a master's degree - and have had run ins with spoiled college kids running to sites like the College Fix and The Daily Caller to get their way before. On the student side, I would have complained to the dean as well if even half of this student's attitude was taking away from the class discussion. Based on the childish insults he flung in his email, I can't imagine his in-class behavior was much better.

Another great article on this ridiculousness: Rollins College falls prey to fake-news hysteria - Orlando Sentinel

I look forward to this student releasing his failing essay.
 
Old 03-30-2017, 10:03 AM
 
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Why on earth would I be drawn to believe in a faith that harbors such evil? Please explain.
If you think that merely speaking of hell is evil, just wait until you partake of it. Does this offend you?
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