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View Poll Results: Trump supporters: If Trump is found guilty of collaborating with Russia, would you accept his impeac
Yes 17 38.64%
No 27 61.36%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-28-2017, 01:42 AM
 
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Would it suddenly matter if it was Hillary collaborating with Russia?
Of course. The devil of course is in the details-just as with Trump.
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Old 03-28-2017, 01:54 AM
 
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That should read: "The Mainstream Media, which is despised by a small and insignificant segment of the American People".




I can't even begin to imagine what your source for that might be.


Americans' Trust in Mass Media Sinks to New Low | Gallup
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Old 03-28-2017, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Fresno, CA
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The world is already controlled by elitist pricks that would gladly sanction any kind of evil things imaginable if it could benefit them as-is so what is the difference? You want to go after the real evil people that influence the world? Go after Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America Merrill Lynch, etc. etc. it's all the people working in those groups that are the true enemies!
You mean like the ones Trump just chose to populate HIS government with? He, a lifelong elitist, choosing other elitists. Are you good with that if it's Trump doing it? Or is it only wrong if non-Trump presidents do it?

So do you see any difference in the priorities of U.S. elitists as opposed to Russian elitists. Is Putin just as trustworthy to you as any of your present government cabinet? Who would you put in the president's cabinet?
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:03 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Of course. The devil of course is in the details-just as with Trump.
The details have been out since at least 2015 when the NYT published them.

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

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The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.â€

The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...pany.html?_r=1
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:17 AM
 
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You mean like the ones Trump just chose to populate HIS government with? He, a lifelong elitist, choosing other elitists. Are you good with that if it's Trump doing it? Or is it only wrong if non-Trump presidents do it?

So do you see any difference in the priorities of U.S. elitists as opposed to Russian elitists. Is Putin just as trustworthy to you as any of your present government cabinet? Who would you put in the president's cabinet?
It doesn't matter WHO we have as President, the end result will always be the same until either we go extinct or the planet blows up. The difference is in the more nuanced details.
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:19 AM
 
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Looking forward to seeing the results of this poll. My prediction is they would forgive him anything.


I didn't participate because it's just stupid.


There isn't even proof of Russian hacking, so the idea that the Trump campaign was an active participant in something for which there is no real evidence (appeals to authority notwithstanding), that Podesta was phished by anyone even tangentially connected to a Russian intelligence agency, is a fairy tale Hillary supporters and NeverTrumpers have decided to promote hoping that it leads somewhere, or, alternately, can be made to lead somewhere.


Obviously both anti-Trump groups would support a coup d'état, and it seems from much of the sentiment expressed here and elsewhere that some are ready to take that step.
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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If Trump got together with Putin and they plotted to get him election, so what. Hillary plotted with Saudi Arabia to get her elected so she could hand out goodies to the Saudis. The voters elected Trump....end of story.


"At this point in time, what difference does it make anyway."
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:42 AM
 
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the clintons took money from a number of foreign governments, including china and russia and the middle east, and no one says much of anything about that, let alone the fact that they used to money in their campaign for president.

my question is what if trump collaborated with putin to try and win the election? did putin change anyones mind? did the russians force people to vote for trump?

another question that needs to be asked as well, when obama was campaigning for president in 2008, he made many campaign stops in a number o european countries, did he collaborate with those countries?

one more question, hen obama was president, the russians were our friends. i mean the democrats ridiculed romney to no end when romney suggested that the russians were a geopolitical enemy, but now the russians are our enemies again according to the SAME democrats that claimed they were our friends. what changed?
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:59 AM
 
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If Trump got together with Putin and they plotted to get him election, so what. Hillary plotted with Saudi Arabia to get her elected so she could hand out goodies to the Saudis. The voters elected Trump....end of story.


"At this point in time, what difference does it make anyway."



Never mind that the only person to have been proven to have attempted to steal the election is Hillary.


She cheated by colluding with a CNN reporter to get at least one debate question in advance and then, when asked the question she knew was comming, acted like the question was unexpected.


Classic Clinton dishonesty!


What a piece of ****!




Regardless of who sent the phishing e-mail to Podesta, the only reason the Clinton campaign may have been damaged by the subsequent mass e-mail release is because it proved that the Clinton campaign was actively and deliberately trying to steal the election with lots of help from CNN, et.al.
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Old 03-28-2017, 03:21 AM
 
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If Trump got together with Putin and they plotted to get him election, so what. Hillary plotted with Saudi Arabia to get her elected so she could hand out goodies to the Saudis. The voters elected Trump....end of story.


"At this point in time, what difference does it make anyway."
Exactly! Saudi Arabia is a BILLION times worse than Russia and filled to the brim with third world corrupt sub-human scum that kills women for the smallest of reasons and is involved in all horrible kinds of things, but liberals are more than willing to forgive Hillary for involving herself in such. Libs have NO room to talk!
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