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Old 03-28-2017, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Anti-Climate? Humans have no control over weather! Anthropological global warming is the biggest scam shoved down people's throats. Great job by Trump to stop the insanity.
Than you senator Inhoffe
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Sitting on the West Coast, where unemployment in Seattle is less than 3.9% and housing is almost unavailable, I don't really care what rust belt states do. If they want Republican policies, they should get them all. Remove all environmental protections and burn coal 24/7. If that's what the Rust Belt wants, they should get it full force. Democrats in the West will just happily live out lives. The important thing is Trump is going to reduce our taxes so we can keep our money in our own region and the Rust Belt can fund themselves with all those coal jobs they will get.
I agree mostly but Trump will reduce the taxes of corporations, millionaires and billionaires leaving the middle class to pick up the cost of their services.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:16 PM
 
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He's declared war. States will now enact their own environmental protection. This is such BS. People are getting rid of coal. It's not coming back. There are 75,000 coal jobs and banks will not loan to invest. There are 650,000 renewable energy jobs.

And here come the lawsuits. We also are not going to increase black lung benefits right? Now that we know that it causes black lung, it's like cigarettes--do it at your own risk.

"...The idea that coal jobs can ever come back is "one of the most cruel deceptions" being played in politics right now, Rep. John Yarmuth, D-Ky., told CNBC on Tuesday.

"They've decommissioned a lot of coal-fired plants. They've gone to natural gas plants. So I'm not sure that there's going to be that much of an impact, even in terms of increasing demand for coal," he said in an interview with "Power Lunch."


Environment groups in Colorado and beyond mobilize to oppose Trump order to dismantle U.S. climate change policy – The Denver Post

Washington, Oregon governors vow to fight Trump on environmental protection | Peninsula Daily News

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/28/the-return-of-coal-jobs-is-a-cruel-deception-congressman-says.html
That's the beauty of it. By Appalachia supporting Trump and saying the problem was Obama's "war on coal", they have painted themselves into a corner. Trump is their guy. He's taking away restrictions, and blue states will simply do everything they can to avoid it. We won't breathe that, Trump supporters will. PLUS they have no one to blame for their unemployment.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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That's the beauty of it. By Appalachia supporting Trump and saying the problem was Obama's "war on coal", they have painted themselves into a corner. Trump is their guy. He's taking away restrictions, and blue states will simply do everything they can to avoid it. We won't breathe that, Trump supporters will. PLUS they have no one to blame for their unemployment.
Still butthurt because the Dems keep losing eh? Your party has no vision, admit it and people such as yourself are why they lose. Your'e a west coast person that thinks you're better than other people in America.

Comedian Bill Burr pointed this out perfectly more than once.

Unite folks these are the reasons we need to make sure the Dems keep losing and it will be very easy.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:21 PM
 
Location: mancos
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It's always been a tough place to live.When coal began powering our country they finally caught a break and were part of the American middle class and we all benifited for decades now as things change and and new cheaper power is online their contribution to the growth and success of same country is made fun of ,despised and hated.never understand how people who live in a diferent time can have so much hate for those who came before and had less and even more less to work with.Everyone posting here benifited and survived from coal.Times change and good people get hurt so sad.No need to rub it in and hate
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Still butthurt because the Dems keep losing eh? Your party has no vision, admit it and people such as yourself are why they lose.
What are they going to do and who are they going to vote for when Trump and his misdirected policies prove to be frauds?

Trump went there on the campaign trail and promised to 'bring their high-paying jobs back.' HRC went there and told them the truth -- that those jobs aren't coming back and she intends to retrain them for other industries that she will help promote. The coal miners weren't interested in the truth. They'd rather vote for the guy who told them what they wanted to hear.

Afterwards, Trump supported the health bill that would strip most of them of healthcare. That's a cruel double-cross.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:23 PM
 
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It's always been a tough place to live.When coal began powering our country they finally caught a break and were part of the American middle class and we all benifited for decades now as things change and and new cheaper power is online their contribution to the growth and success of same country is made fun of ,despised and hated.never understand how people who live in a diferent time can have so much hate for those who came before and had less and even more less to work with.Everyone posting here benifited and survived from coal.Times change and good people get hurt so sad.No need to rub it in and hate
Sorry but after eight years of them blaming Obama, the only guy that brought them health care and was honest with them, it's hard to find the pity. They believe Trump is going to bring back their coal jobs. They voted for Trump. They deserve to live the results of their vote.

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What are they going to do and who are they going to vote for when Trump and his misdirected policies prove to be frauds?
Exactly. This is going to be a great experiment to watch play out but it's hard to feel bad since they voted for it.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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What are they going to do and who are they going to vote for when Trump and his misdirected policies prove to be frauds?
Who cares at this point? Trump will always be seen as the lesser of two evils because Hillary and Obama don't know how to connect with much of America.

Is Hillary, Pelosi, and Schumer the best you have? Why'd you guys hose Bernie Sanders? Because he's not a corporate shill Democrat which is who holds all the power in your party.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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Who cares at this point? Trump will always be seen as the lesser of two evils because Hillary and Obama don't know how to connect with much of America.

Is Hillary, Pelosi, and Schumer the best you have? Why'd you guys hose Bernie Sanders? Because he's not a corporate Democrat which is who holds all the power in your party.
If Trump supporters are willing to endure Trump's policies no matter how much it hurts them because they "connect with him" then by all means, they shouldn't complain, they need to go get all those coal jobs and start paying instead of taking.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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Sorry but after eight years of them blaming Obama, the only guy that brought them health care and was honest with them, it's hard to find the pity. They believe Trump is going to bring back their coal jobs. They voted for Trump. They deserve to live the results of their vote.



Exactly. This is going to be a great experiment to watch play out but it's hard to feel bad since they voted for it.
You have some sort of obsession with coal. Trump won pretty much every rust belt state and plenty of other states most of which don't even have any coal.

You're just butthurt and in denial that your party is in complete meltdown mode.

Wait now the ACA some how factors on this?
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