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Old 03-29-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by tonym9428 View Post
I still don't why you Republicans have an issue with this.
You were the same people saying, "why do you care about stop and frisk if you did nothing wrong."
So why do you care about "owning" your browsing history if you're not looking at child porn or other bad things.
Absolutely amazing, isn't it?
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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Absolutely amazing, isn't it?

The lack of ideological consistency...certainly is.
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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The Verge just published a list of who voted for this and how much they got paid for it

http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15...vacy-fire-sale
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Because it will be health insurance companies checking the symptoms and diseases you searched for to increase your premium or drop your coverage.

It will be will be life insurance companies checking your searches to see if they can find evidence of any activities that would make it easy to reject a claim.

Internal and foreign governments will be looking to use it as blackmail, or who knows what else.

Adults could find themselves trying to explain to their employers why they searched for certain words or topics when they were kids or teenagers. Or who knows what else.

There are so many ways to exploit a person's privacy this way it is unreal.

Unless you're tech savvy, the average person the only way to avoid this will be to stop using the internet.
And it might be impossible to circumvent, your ISP could deny you internet access if you are using a VPN, and if you use an offshore based VPN you will be limited in what sites you can access, I can't log into my bank or my health insurance account unless I have a US based IP address.
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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That will be a change to the two changes that were forthcoming??? Which equals NO CHANGE.

I think it is an absurd bill. I think the rule change would have been good.

But repealing it STOPS the change from happening, as is evidenced by the link provided by Artemis:


https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/0...cy-protections


Which ISPs have done it before?? ALL OF THEM. It is something that has been going on for years. The new rule would have stopped it from happening. If the rule is repealed NOTHING CHANGES.

How much more plain can it be?

Should it change? YES. But don't run around saying "this new bill will now allow something" when all of that has been going on for years. It is an outright lie.
Not entirely accurate.

The repeal introduced this little gem

""The Senate today used its power under the Congressional Review Act to ensure that the FCC rulemaking "shall have no force or effect" and to prevent the FCC from issuing similar regulations in the future."

This guy seems pretty swampy to me too:

FCC Chairman Ajit Pai argues that consumers would be confused if there are different privacy rules for ISPs than for online companies like Google and Facebook. "American consumers should not have to be lawyers or engineers to figure out if their information is protected," Pai recently told Democratic lawmakers.

^He thinks Americans are too dumb to know when they're opting in for their data to be sold.....

(https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...o-advertisers/)

In a world where were are ever more connected, through health devices, IoT in the home, etc this really is bad bad bad legislation.

You know, recently there was a pretty big data breach by Dun & Bradstreet - where 33 million users information was leaked. All American. This contained PII (Personally Identifiable Information).
The information onsold by your ISP, could be PII...
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Old 03-29-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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Internet privacy was lost long ago when the Patriot Act was passed. Edward Snowden detailed how your all electronic communications are compromised. In the larger scheme of things, this repeal is far less harmful to your privacy than what has already been done.

Years ago I bought two smart TVs. When I set them up, I was required to sign agreements that let the manufacturers sell my viewing data to third parties, among other things. Data being sold to third parties is nothing new.

Don't be fooled by those democrats' "NO" votes. They already knew this thing was going to pass, because they are all in on it. It just was an act to keep your votes.

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Old 03-29-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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Once again, libs fail to comprehend that you don't have to like everything about the choices that the party makes.

No, I don't like this.

Having said that, it is very possible to get around it. People have been doing it for a long time. In this day and age, you really need to know how to work your way around the internet. If you don't yet, it's time you start putting some key words in to your favorite search engine and figure it out.

Remember: There's always a way around it. Anything "they" try to put up, someone out there will find a way around it...and it will spread. Every time.

I've already had this discussion on another thread with the exact same topic, and since people there wanted to argue and not learn, then heck with helping people out. Everyone can figure it out for themselves...or they can continue to sit here crying about a vote that we can't control right this second.

Just because they think that they can track your history doesn't mean that they actually can. You know, if you learn.

We the people are not as all powerful as the IT world experts who run the web like demi-gods. It is a fantasy to believe that somehow we the people can get around this by using some low-tech tricks. "They" will get around whatever we do. This about feeding the starving beast who can never have enough money.
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Old 03-29-2017, 06:44 PM
 
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Default Is this what you Trump voters wanted?

The Founders of this country and the framers of the constitution are rolling over in their graves. They would have never wanted this.

What kind of sociopaths would do this to the people? What is wrong with these folks?

It is unbelievable that the Supreme Court would allow this. While people were looking the other way, obsessing in their tribal war against "Obamacare", this is what the Republicans were doing to us. Just a few weeks ago there was news about them passing a bill that would permit employers to ask for our genetic information for employment. America cannot be the so-called greatest country on earth with this kind of sick stuff going on.
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Old 03-29-2017, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Again the GOP as a party has lied. This is not what anyone would want. Right now I have a little box asking if it is OK for CD to use my location.
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:32 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Somewhere in the previous 189 comments and counting, this may have already been said, but I find it absurd and idiotic (though not surprising) that Trump has gotten so bent out of shape with far fetched allegations of being wiretapped, but yet he doesn't mind when other peoples' privacy is compromised.

Disclaimer: Democrats have also violated the public trust with privacy violations (i.e. the Verizon NSA phone tapping scandal that Obama had his hand in as well), so I don't really trust either party in this regard.

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