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You do realize that some disability means one is unable to work. So what training are you going to provide and for what job?
Care to tell us where all these jobs are that are waiting to hire under educated and disabled people?
I do not care. How is it that almost 10% of West Virginia is on Disability? How is that the Eastern Kentucky economy is dependent on Disability? Why is it that the top five states on Disability are in the south? Why is the rest of the country paying for them? These same states demonize education, call the educated "elitist", vote Republican and would not hesitate to scream at someone on welfare which is temporary while taking Disability which is lifelong.
These people never moved even though the jobs ended decades ago. If a factory closes in Washington state, would the country give all those people disability? Or would they say, well, time to find a new job or move to where the jobs are. Why are these people special? Why are we on the hook for them for decades? When don't they grow up and take responsibility for themselves?
How about we give each state a percentage of Disability income to give out per citizen and they get to keep the remainder. I'm guessing those Republican governors would make these people re-qualify so fast their heads would spin. Right now, they give it out because it's an endless bucket of cash we pay and they essentially buy these people's vote.
Putting aside Disability for a moment, where are those " desk jobs"? What are the functions of a " desk job"?
Most " desk jobs" require education and skills and even those are targeted for technology substitution.
Direct deposit, electronic check clearing, ATMs and electronic banking permanently eliminated hundreds of thousands of banking jobs.
The back office functions that once employed tens of thousands were wiped out by technology substitution.
Quick Books and Turbo Tax greatly reduced the need for accountants.
Most people do their own Word Processing and no longer rely on Secretarial/Support staff.
There are PLENTY of desk jobs that don't require an education. Data entry, telemarketing, office admin positions, dispatching. Even sitting down to work a cash register.
I do not care. How is it that almost 10% of West Virginia is on Disability? How is that the Eastern Kentucky economy is dependent on Disability? Why is it that the top five states on Disability are in the south? Why is the rest of the country paying for them? These same states demonize education, call the educated "elitist", vote Republican and would not hesitate to scream at someone on welfare which is temporary while taking Disability which is lifelong.
These people never moved even though the jobs ended decades ago. If a factory closes in Washington state, would the country give all those people disability? Or would they say, well, time to find a new job or move to where the jobs are. Why are these people special? Why are we on the hook for them for decades? When don't they grow up and take responsibility for themselves?
How about we give each state a percentage of Disability income to give out per citizen and they get to keep the remainder. I'm guessing those Republican governors would make these people re-qualify so fast their heads would spin. Right now, they give it out because it's an endless bucket of cash we pay and they essentially buy these people's vote.
It's possible a large percentage of them were blue collar workers in the energy industry and so on that destroyed their body or had a bad injury somehow. Obviously you're not going to go on disability if you've been a keyboard warrior your whole life.
It's possible a large percentage of them were blue collar workers in the energy industry and so on that destroyed their body or had a bad injury somehow. Obviously you're not going to go on disability if you've been a keyboard warrior your whole life.
It's also possible that disability has become a way of life for many.
It's possible a large percentage of them were blue collar workers in the energy industry and so on that destroyed their body or had a bad injury somehow. Obviously you're not going to go on disability if you've been a keyboard warrior your whole life.
Or they lack education and incentive so they go on disability.
"Sonny Ryan, a retired judge in town, didn't hear disability cases in his courtroom. But the subject came up often. He described one exchange he had with a man who was on disability but looked healthy.
"Just out of curiosity, what is your disability?" the judge asked from the bench.
"I have high blood pressure," the man said.
"So do I," the judge said. "What else?"
"I have diabetes."
"So do I."
“I submitted or allowed the submission of medical records that I knew to be fraudulent in nature,†Conn said when U.S. District Judge Danny C. Reeves asked him to describe his illegal conduct.
Conn admitted he submitted false documents in “well over†1,700 cases, the Department of Justice said."
I do not care. How is it that almost 10% of West Virginia is on Disability? How is that the Eastern Kentucky economy is dependent on Disability? Why is it that the top five states on Disability are in the south? Why is the rest of the country paying for them? These same states demonize education, call the educated "elitist", vote Republican and would not hesitate to scream at someone on welfare which is temporary while taking Disability which is lifelong.
These people never moved even though the jobs ended decades ago. If a factory closes in Washington state, would the country give all those people disability? Or would they say, well, time to find a new job or move to where the jobs are. Why are these people special? Why are we on the hook for them for decades? When don't they grow up and take responsibility for themselves?
How about we give each state a percentage of Disability income to give out per citizen and they get to keep the remainder. I'm guessing those Republican governors would make these people re-qualify so fast their heads would spin. Right now, they give it out because it's an endless bucket of cash we pay and they essentially buy these people's vote.
First of all west virginia was a northern union state ,its 8.9% not almost 10% to be exact, and your states numbers are not great either.
You are not against disability as long as a state votes blue? your state has twice as many people on disability as west virginia but thats ok if its blue? What about other forms of public assistance? A place like Oregon has as a higher percentage of people on food stamps as Mississippi or New mexico
First of all west virginia was a northern union state ,its 8.9% not almost 10% to be exact, and your states numbers are not great either.
You are not against disability as long as a state votes blue? your state has twice as many people on disability as west virginia but thats ok if its blue? What about other forms of public assistance? A place like Oregon has as a higher percentage of people on food stamps as Mississippi or New mexico
As a percentage, West Virginia tops them all. As a percentage, the top five states are West Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi and Kentucky.
"The agency said it was taking that action because there was reason to believe some cases Conn’s firm handled included fraudulent information from four doctors.
The move was a blow in Eastern Kentucky, where disability income is a significant part of the economy.
The agency decided not to cut off off checks during the re-determination process after Republican U.S. Rep. Hal Rogers interceded."
As a percentage, West Virginia tops them all. As a percentage, the top five states are West Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi and Kentucky.
"The agency said it was taking that action because there was reason to believe some cases Conn’s firm handled included fraudulent information from four doctors.
The move was a blow in Eastern Kentucky, where disability income is a significant part of the economy.
The agency decided not to cut off off checks during the re-determination process after Republican U.S. Rep. Hal Rogers interceded."
I have no doubt alot of disability cases are frauds but west virginia is a very sparsely populated state, there are more disability cases in many highly populated states than all of those five combined. Its not just Appalachia where there is a high concentration of disability dependence by any means, if you look at the sheer numbers its a huge problem all over the country
I have no doubt alot of disability cases are frauds but west virginia is a very sparsely populated state, there are more disability cases in many highly populated states than all of those five combined. Its not just Appalachia where there is a high concentration of disability dependence by any means, if you look at the sheer numbers its a huge problem all over the country
Except other parts of the country aren't screaming they want the jobs that put them on disability the way coal miners do. And other parts of the country don't stay where there are no jobs for DECADES waiting for the government to support them. There are more travel agents in this country, a pretty much dead industry, than coal miners, but all we hear about are screaming coal miners, even though a huge percentage of them end up on Disability and we end up supporting them for life plus providing them free medical care. That's the topics of this thread. That these people are the dominant recipients of Disability. The same people that call educated people "elitist" while happily taking their tax dollars.
Except other parts of the country aren't screaming they want the jobs that put them on disability the way coal miners do. And other parts of the country don't stay where there are no jobs for DECADES waiting for the government to support them. There are more travel agents in this country, a pretty much dead industry, than coal miners, but all we hear about are screaming coal miners, even though a huge percentage of them end up on Disability and we end up supporting them for life plus providing them free medical care. That's the topics of this thread. That these people are the dominant recipients of Disability. The same people that call educated people "elitist" while happily taking their tax dollars.
People in west virginia and eastern kentucky are not the dominant recipients of disability by a long shot, these are very sparsely populated areas. West Virginia represents less than 1% of the nations disabled workers receiving benefits.
The overwhelming majority of disability recipients live all over the country, why are the 212,000 disabled workers receiving benefits in Washington state better than the 108,000 in west Virginia? At least if you voted red you probably want to get back to work I would hope,we dont even know who the people on disability voted for anyway.
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