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Old 04-02-2017, 08:33 PM
 
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Let's face it this Orange Liar and his family are something else. Ivanka said at the beginning of the campaign she wanted to be just a daughter. Now, she has an office in the White House. This, is just one of the many lies he and his family have thrown at us. I don't want Pence as president either. He is actually more dangerous with his agenda.
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Old 04-02-2017, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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what is the alternative?
You really raise a very good point there, pknopp.......who would be a good alternative ? I don't have the answer. This last election was populated by some very unimpressive candidates, on both sides. Out of a country of hundreds of millions of people, it is odd that this was the best we could come up with ! No one there really stood out as a sane, experienced, pro people choice, except maybe for Bernie Sanders.

I know some people see him as a socialist, but the man is smart, experienced, and seems to have a grasp of what we need to do to make this country better. I can see why he inspired such a huge following, and it is a shame the Democrats shut him out like they did.
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Old 04-02-2017, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Spot on.
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Old 04-02-2017, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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The editorial posts below the article are hilarious!
More Trump supporters slamming the guy for being so partisan, than Snowflakes defending him.
I find the editorial shocking. A major US newspaper taking the position that the President is hopelessly dishonest...a slime bag.

That they would ever dare write this shows how badly Trump is doing.

And some of us take it lightly. Contrary to my hope and desire Trump may not make it to 2018. How in the world could we have made such an awful choice.

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Old 04-02-2017, 08:50 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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You really raise a very good point there, pknopp.......who would be a good alternative ? I don't have the answer. This last election was populated by some very unimpressive candidates, on both sides. Out of a country of hundreds of millions of people, it is odd that this was the best we could come up with ! No one there really stood out as a sane, experienced, pro people choice, except maybe for Bernie Sanders.

I know some people see him as a socialist, but the man is smart, experienced, and seems to have a grasp of what we need to do to make this country better. I can see why he inspired such a huge following, and it is a shame the Democrats shut him out like they did.
I think Sanders scares a lot of people on the right because they don't know the difference between socialism and communism.
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Old 04-02-2017, 08:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I think Sanders scares a lot of people on the right because they don't know the difference between socialism and communism.

What is the end goal of Socialism?

There is only one way Socialism works..... CLUE: It is not with people that have the freedom & liberty to think for themselves, do what ever and say what ever they want.

For socialism to work, the centralized government must control and own everything, including you & me.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:18 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Let's face it this Orange Liar and his family are something else. Ivanka said at the beginning of the campaign she wanted to be just a daughter. Now, she has an office in the White House. This, is just one of the many lies he and his family have thrown at us. I don't want Pence as president either. He is actually more dangerous with his agenda.
I am torn on this. If trans equality has to be put on hold for a few years in order to get Trump out, I am not sure that's not a worthy sacrifice. It's not like Trump has been on the right side of any social issue yet. He already rescinded some LGBT protections, has threatened to go after legal cannabis states, and has nominated a pro-life Supreme Court justice. I don't see things getting much worse under Pence. Any damage that's done can be undone in 2021 when we have a Democrat in office.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:39 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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You really raise a very good point there, pknopp.......who would be a good alternative ? I don't have the answer. This last election was populated by some very unimpressive candidates, on both sides. Out of a country of hundreds of millions of people, it is odd that this was the best we could come up with ! No one there really stood out as a sane, experienced, pro people choice, except maybe for Bernie Sanders.

I know some people see him as a socialist, but the man is smart, experienced, and seems to have a grasp of what we need to do to make this country better. I can see why he inspired such a huge following, and it is a shame the Democrats shut him out like they did.
The only reason he acquired such a large following is because of Russian influence if you believe the Democrats. Russia was hacking Hillary during the primary against Sanders to help him win the nomination. Notably, Wikileaks went after all the D's except him. He has all sorts of Russian ties, sketchy financials he won't disclose, etc. I happen to think it's all nonsense, but if you believe the Russian influence/hacking narrative, then you can't give Bernie Sanders any credit because like Trump, it was all Russian propaganda that moved the needle for Bernie.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Wow, the attack on the President is pretty damn bold by this author!
The LA Times is non-stop Liberal propaganda. There is no such thing as journalism at the LA Times.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:45 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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I think Sanders scares a lot of people on the right because they don't know the difference between socialism and communism.
Do you acknowledge the only reason Bernie gained popularity was via Russian collusion & influence?
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