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Old 04-04-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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What Susan Rice did was perfectly legal. She has the clearance and it's within the scope of her office and her duties.

Here's what Trumpsters don't seem to get: the ONLY reason Trump and his inner circle got caught in incidental collection is because of who they associate with. If you don't pal around with Russian spies, mafia figures, have servers connected to Russian banks, or launder money from overseas, then you don't get caught in the incidental web. There would be nothing to unmask.

I have no doubt the minute Trump picked Manafort as campaign manager all sorts of red flags popped up in multiple intelligence agencies. The only person Trump has to blame is himself for hanging out and doing questionable deals with questionable people.
No its not , unmasking the names of trump associates and leaking them is a felony. Hopefully we have hearings on this soon. What a mess


https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/849288455997841410
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Rice married to ABC News producer Ian Officer Cameron. Is there much difference?
Cameron left ABC in 2010.
Rice became National Security Advisor in 2013.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:55 AM
 
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Tell that to the poster who claims he is Executive Producer at NBC News.
I did already a few pages ago.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:55 AM
 
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No its not , unmasking the names of trump associates and leaking them is a felony. Hopefully we have hearings on this soon. What a mess


https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/849288455997841410
Rice did not unmask or leak names. More fake news from the right.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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2 questions...

1- Is this a national security issue that warranted the unmasking? If not - then it's illegal.

2- Who got the information? If it was people outside of the classified audience, then it's illegal.


#1 - I don't know. Do you? No, you don't, either.


#2 - Agreed. Who got it that shouldn't have had it and how?
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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She was the national security adviser. Reviewing national security information. She felt a need to know more about the parties in the data collection. She was authorized to unmask those parties. All this is legal. The question is, after unmasking those parties, what information did she share, and with whom?


And why did she lie about it?
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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...Americans were targeted here!..

Americans were targets of surveillance? You have any evidence to back that up?
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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Americans were targets of surveillance? You have any evidence to back that up?
Snowden. The courts ruling what was done was unconstitutional. It never stopped.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
What Susan Rice did was perfectly legal. She has the clearance and it's within the scope of her office and her duties.

Here's what Trumpsters don't seem to get: the ONLY reason Trump and his inner circle got caught in incidental collection is because of who they associate with. If you don't pal around with Russian spies, mafia figures, have servers connected to Russian banks, or launder money from overseas, then you don't get caught in the incidental web. There would be nothing to unmask.

I have no doubt the minute Trump picked Manafort as campaign manager all sorts of red flags popped up in multiple intelligence agencies. The only person Trump has to blame is himself for hanging out and doing questionable deals with questionable people.
This, exactly.

All of these deflections about American citizens being ensnared, blah, blah, blah are just that - deflections.

If these people hadn't been talking to people ALREADY under suspicion well before the campaign/election, this would all be a moot point.
As is usual behavior for 45, he obviously KNEW that there was a whole lot of stuff that could come out, hence the initial offensive tweet about being wiretapped.

If he and his cronies had nothing to hide, why the full court press to place the blame elsewhere?

As I already noted, nothing Susan Rice did was illegal nor was it done for "political purposes" as defined by any person capable of rational, critical thought.
Ms Rice derived no benefit from this alleged unmasking.
Then-president Obama derived no benefit.
Hillary Clinton derived no benefit.

And, most importantly, the American public has derived NO benefit.
DC is now infested with the most corrupt bunch as has ever been seen.
And their tactics have been so effective as to convince some number of malleable minds that they are the aggrieved parties.

Anyone who believes anything that spews from any of these mouths or fingers is without an iota of credibility.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:02 AM
 
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they will deny it all. everyone knows the did it - but they probably skate on technicalities.
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